24 hr race

Are they actually racing againsed each other, or is just like the other leagues?

They raced off-line, and reported results at driver-changes. I want to see a new 24 hour race - 1 driver per team! No changing drivers i.e. 1 person, all out for 24 hours. Now that would be endurance! On a long road course, like Road America, or Portland... Tom

Kinda' both, actually...The race was made up of several teams, each with between 3 ~ 4 people. When the first driver finished his stint, he sent the saved race to the next on his team, and so on. A copy of the race is also sent to the person marshalling the race, so that track positions, etc. could be kept track of. For more info on the race, as well as an upcoming series, visit MIRacing at: http://www.miracing.com Mucho fun!! =) Marc

(snip) was to test the endurance of the cars, not the drivers. (unsnip) 100% correct, Marc! Most long-distance races (12+ hours) have required driver changes for safety reasons. Events such as the Mille Miglia, although not requiring the driver to be relieved, did stipulate a "co-driver".....probably to keep the "driver" awake as well as navigate! -- Bruce ---- "To be or not to be? Well, I'd rather 'be', if you don't mind!"

Methinks you-all been in Sim-land too long. Aren't you corn-fusing "FIREBALL" ROBERTS with "CANNONBALL" BAKER? And the generally accepted name is "HUPMOBILE"...... BTW, "Cannonball" Baker set records in 1928 of 14 min. 49.6 sec.in a Franklin; and in 1932 of 13 min. 26 sec. in a Graham, for driving the Mount Washington Carriage Road, in Gorham NH. This was when it was 7+ miles of dirt & rock, no pavement; unlike '95 when Paul Choiniere did the same distance in 6 mins 45.22 secs in the Hyundai Rally Elantra. Good hillclimb, cheap spectating, comes up again the weekend of June 28-29! Saludos!

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> Hi Tom, > >I want to see a new 24 hour race - 1 driver per team! No changing drivers > >i.e. 1 person, all out for 24 hours. Now that would be endurance! On a > long > >road course, like Road America, or Portland... > I think the reason there was a real 24hr race to begin with, > was to test the endurance of the cars, not the drivers. I > think this was started in the '20's, when US-auto makers > hired drivers to drive across the US. Not too many roads > at that time, but if memory serves I think Cannon-Ball > Roberts made the trip in less than 50hrs in a Hutmobile!! > Later, a race across the States was named in his honor > called the 'Cannon-Ball Run'. =) > Best Regards, > Marc > Marc J. Nelson > The Sim Project > #9 Gulf/CICC-2 - Winner of the MIRacing 24hr Enduro

Hi Tom, I think the reason there was a real 24hr race to begin with, was to test the endurance of the cars, not the drivers. I think this was started in the '20's, when US-auto makers hired drivers to drive across the US. Not too many roads at that time, but if memory serves I think Cannon-Ball Roberts made the trip in less than 50hrs in a Hutmobile!! Later, a race across the States was named in his honor called the 'Cannon-Ball Run'. =) Best Regards, Marc Marc J. Nelson The Sim Project #9 Gulf/CICC-2 - Winner of the MIRacing 24hr Enduro

Mark, I understand your point completely - but we don't get to test car endurance on the PC (not counting random breakdowns, of course) It might test PC endurance, though - does anyone really know if Nascar2 or ICR2 is prone to lockups after 20 hours of play? Tom

Hi Tom, But most (if not all) of similar types of racing do not have drivers behind the wheel for too long...so, doing it in a sim wouldn't be too realistic. I welcome you to try it though.<g> The games don't have a problem with continuous runs...it's the computer (as well as yourself) you have to worry about. ;) Best Regards, Marc

Just don't do this in Windows 95. Exit to a DOS ONLY session. In Windows 95, the replay just keeps going and going and going etc. because the virtual address space is very large. Eventually your machine will start thrashing giving you freeze frame type of action (=unplayable). This occurs when racing even a short race with only 32 meg of memory. With 64 meg of actual memory you can race moderate lengths without this problem. /THansen

Hmm...what if someone creates a Lemans or a Sebring? Even though that can't be done, it would be the most realistic. The next realistic possible thing is the Watkins Glen 6 hours race in IMSA (i mean SportsCar). Christopher http://members.aol.com/ROSCS ----------------------------------------------------

Hi Andrew, Me thinks you don't read all the text...I said "I think"... ;) Of course, this doesn't excuse my goof-up, and thank you for the clarification, and my humble apologies to the late Cannonball Baker. Ooops, I goofed again!!...sorry. =P Cheers! Marc J. Nelson President - Worthless Font of Misinformation Club

I had forgotten about the Win95 version...However, why anyone would want to play ICR2 in Crash95 is beyond me... ;) Cheers! Marc

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>Hi Tom, >>I understand your point completely - but we don't get to test car >endurance >>on the PC (not counting random breakdowns, of course) It might test PC >>endurance, though - >But most (if not all) of similar types of racing do not have drivers >behind the wheel for too long...so, doing it in a sim wouldn't be >too realistic. I welcome you to try it though.<g> >>does anyone really know if Nascar2 or ICR2 is prone to >>lockups after 20 hours of play? >The games don't have a problem with continuous runs...it's the >computer (as well as yourself) you have to worry about. ;) >Best Regards, >Marc

Nah, you can leave your system on. I've had to do it on races when I couldn't finish them right then (NO SAVE FEATURE! :( ) It took me three days to run the Indy 500 once... ________ Eldred Pickett e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...