A.J. and Arie

I wonder if the new IRL game will have a "Punch Lyundyke" option. All I have to say about the incident is, never, ever, ever jump up in A.J. Foyt's face and tell him he has no business in Victory Lane. I would've punched Lyundyke too. 'Course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. Number 6 Every Other Man Productions Reed Racing & Enginering http://www.***highway.net/~blreed "Save the Texas Prarie Chicken!"

Well Arie had the right to complain....He won the god damn race!!!!!!!!!!! A.J. needs to take a pill.....remember Indy when he got pissed off

>Well Arie had the right to complain....He won the god damn race!!!!!!!!!!! >A.J. needs to take a pill.....remember Indy when he got pissed off A.J. Foyt? Calm? Have you ever watched the man race before? What you saw was typical A.J. Foyt. And no, Arie had no right doing it the way he did. The way he should have done it was to go to the IRL officials, and lodge a protest. He instead marched into victory lane and mouthed off to Foyt. Arie was out of line, and he did the one thing EVERYBODY connected with racing knows not to do, he pissed off one of the biggest powder kegs in the sport. I'm not saying what A.J. did was completly right, but I will say I would have knocked the hell out of Luyendike myself. 'Nuff said. Number 6 Every Other Man Productions Reed Racing & Enginering http://www.***highway.net/~blreed "Save the Texas Prarie Chicken!"

Yeh and who won the race. This shows the IRL isn't Half - assed. They are all ass. Amateur hour can't stand being dominated by a professional.

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> I wonder if the new IRL game will have a "Punch Lyundyke" option. > All I have to say about the incident is, never, ever, ever jump up in > A.J. Foyt's face and tell him he has no business in Victory Lane. I > would've punched Lyundyke too. > 'Course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. > Number 6 > Every Other Man Productions > Reed Racing & Enginering > http://www.***highway.net/~blreed > "Save the Texas Prarie Chicken!"

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> Well Arie had the right to complain....He won the god damn race!!!!!!!!!!! > A.J. needs to take a pill.....remember Indy when he got pissed off Arie should have waited before he brought up this problem....he should not have walked up to the winners circle like he did and interrupt the ceremony....That was not the proper way to handle that problem.....Arie is a cry baby(whiner) anyway, and anybody who is involved in racing knows it......Not many people like Arie.....and you can also put Paul Tracey in the same boat also.

About time somebody knocked the arrogant Lyundyke on his you know what. Guess he mouthed off to the wrong guy this time. As far as I'm concerned the checker was displayed to Boat first and his win should stand.

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> >Well Arie had the right to complain....He won the god damn race!!!!!!!!!!! > >A.J. needs to take a pill.....remember Indy when he got pissed off > A.J. Foyt? Calm? > Have you ever watched the man race before? What you saw was typical > A.J. Foyt. And no, Arie had no right doing it the way he did. The > way he should have done it was to go to the IRL officials, and lodge a > protest. He instead marched into victory lane and mouthed off to > Foyt. Arie was out of line, and he did the one thing EVERYBODY > connected with racing knows not to do, he pissed off one of the > biggest powder kegs in the sport. > I'm not saying what A.J. did was completly right, but I will say I > would have knocked the hell out of Luyendike myself. > 'Nuff said. > Number 6 > Every Other Man Productions > Reed Racing & Enginering > http://www.***highway.net/~blreed > "Save the Texas Prarie Chicken!"

> AJ is a stupid for doing that. calm the hell down A.J, I think he should > be fined for doing that. it's not like arie throw the first punch. also > A.J threw a damn sucker punch. AJ shouldn't have done that but Arie had NO RIGHT to go into victory circle and protest. He deserved what he got for going in there when all that he and his team had to do was file a formal protest. PolePosition#3

Someone needs to punch the head of the IRL!Can't these guys even keep score of a freaking race?!!!I don't want to hear how hard it is to score a race either.That's no excuse!!

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> On Mon, 09 Jun 1997 17:40:57 -0500, John Logan > >> AJ is a stupid for doing that. calm the hell down A.J, I think he should > >> be fined for doing that. it's not like arie throw the first punch. also > >> A.J threw a damn sucker punch. > >AJ shouldn't have done that but Arie had NO RIGHT to go into victory > >circle and protest. He deserved what he got for going in there when all > >that he and his team had to do was file a formal protest. > Imagine that you have driven an unbelievable race...coming up from > 11th to pass everyone and WIN the race only to see someone else > getting all the attention and accolades and interviews. How many of > us could stay calm in the face of that kind of injustice. He > shouldn't have done what he did but I can't imagine being able to > restrain myself in that situation. > What A.J. did was even more inexcusable. He should have called the > security guys over or simply ignored him. > The bottom line is Arie drove a brilliant race and WON! He DESERVED > much better than being ***-slapped from behind and thrown to the > ground.

I actually thought it was funny. . . PolePosition#3

On Mon, 09 Jun 1997 17:40:57 -0500, John Logan

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>> AJ is a stupid for doing that. calm the hell down A.J, I think he should >> be fined for doing that. it's not like arie throw the first punch. also >> A.J threw a damn sucker punch. >AJ shouldn't have done that but Arie had NO RIGHT to go into victory >circle and protest. He deserved what he got for going in there when all >that he and his team had to do was file a formal protest.

Imagine that you have driven an unbelievable race...coming up from 11th to pass everyone and WIN the race only to see someone else getting all the attention and accolades and interviews. How many of us could stay calm in the face of that kind of injustice. He shouldn't have done what he did but I can't imagine being able to restrain myself in that situation. What A.J. did was even more inexcusable. He should have called the security guys over or simply ignored him. The bottom line is Arie drove a brilliant race and WON! He DESERVED much better than being ***-slapped from behind and thrown to the ground.

NO RIGHT!!! He was the true winner of the damn race. If you won and someone else was celebrating in victory lane, wouldn't you be pissed and say something? Sean Higgins > > AJ is a stupid for doing that. calm the hell down A.J, I think he should

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> > be fined for doing that. it's not like arie throw the first punch. also > > A.J threw a damn sucker punch. > AJ shouldn't have done that but Arie had NO RIGHT to go into victory > circle and protest. He deserved what he got for going in there when all > that he and his team had to do was file a formal protest. > PolePosition#3

AJ needs a good old fashioned Texas ass Whoopin and a 62 year old man could very easily get that. Arie was a good guy. I would have stomped his Fat Ass.

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> NO RIGHT!!! He was the true winner of the damn race. If you won and > someone else was celebrating in victory lane, wouldn't you be pissed and > say something? > Sean Higgins > > > AJ is a stupid for doing that. calm the hell down A.J, I think he > should > > > be fined for doing that. it's not like arie throw the first punch. also > > > A.J threw a damn sucker punch. > > AJ shouldn't have done that but Arie had NO RIGHT to go into victory > > circle and protest. He deserved what he got for going in there when all > > that he and his team had to do was file a formal protest. > > PolePosition#3

Yeah I woulda gone straight into Victory Lane but that don't make it right. Winners Circle is for the winner and since Arie was not the winner at that time he should not have gone. PolePosition#3

He WAS the winner at that time!! Billy Boat and A.J. should not have been there.

Boat's win should not stand....its not arie or aj's fault that the idiots for the IRL ***ed up the scoring. They both should be fined and suspended for what they did.

> >Yeah I woulda gone straight into Victory Lane but that don't make it > >right. Winners Circle is for the winner and since Arie was not the > >winner at that time he should not have gone. > He WAS the winner at that time!! Billy Boat and A.J. should not have > been there. I beg to differ. While Arie had in fact completed more laps, this was not known to the official. As of that moment, while Arie was the rightful winner, Boat and AJ belonged in victory lane, for they were the car that was first shown the checkered flag. The IRL did the right thing by correcting the result later once all the facts were known (and double-checked I'm sure)... ---Jim

> Boat's win should not stand... You could make a (not very strong) case that Boat's win should stand, since the timing and scoring information presented to his team, upon which race decisions were based was incorrect. I don't agree with that argument, but I do assign it some weight; I *HATE* every single decision that changes a race result that happens off the race-track for that very reason. In this case, the IRL did the right thing (of course, after first having done the *very* wrong thing of screwing up the scoring...) What exactly did Arie did that causes you to want to suspend him? And it's not like AJ beat the hell out of Arie, he gave him a little slap upside the head, which is about exactly what he needed to shut the hell up and get out of victory lane... AJ needs a token fine; besides what does it mean exactly to "suspend" a car owner? I guess you could prohibit him from attending the race, but banning his cars seems extreme (not to mention easily defeatable, since those cars could be "sold" to work around the ban...) ---Jim

> >Yeah I woulda gone straight into Victory Lane but that don't make it > >right. Winners Circle is for the winner and since Arie was not the > >winner at that time he should not have gone. > He WAS the winner at that time!! Billy Boat and A.J. should not have > been there. HE may have been the winner, but he was not DECLARED the winner ar that time. PolePosition#3

Billy Boat is definitely in the wrong sport. He should be hustling a hydroplane around a watery course somewhere! -- Bruce ---- "To be or not to be? Well, I'd rather 'be', if you don't mind!"

Something about beating a Texan in Texas. Texans don't like their parades rained on. <g> Jake Myers Snake Racing http://members.aol.com./snakeracin/index.htm

Hmm..for that new IRL sim there should be illegal scoring that sets 5 random drivers to lap speeds of 0.3421 MPH. Also, why not be able to go into victory lane, and get punched by A.J.? Or the opposite. Use a joystick to fight!!! And then, just to make sure Tony Stewart never wins the AI causes him to crash for no reason on the final lap. Christopher http://members.aol.com/ROSCS ----------------------------------------------------