Best wheel/pedal set regardless of price?

Well, I just went through my third spring on the pedals of the T2. 2 brake and one throttle. As I'm trying to wedge the new spring into place AGAIN, the black gear that connects the brake pedal to the pentiometer snaps off. That's it. I'm done. You'd think for $125+ you wouldn't have to crack this thing open every 6 months. Now, having had my fill of poorly manufactured, overpriced junk, I'm ready to shell out the cash for a wheel/pedal combo that was meant to be used more than once a month. The only real contender I've seen is the $250.00 Procontrol Racing Wheel II. Anyone have any ideas/experience with higher end wheels and could make some suggestions/give some advice as to which is best? TIA -Kev

Kev, I own an E.C.C.I. wheel and pedals setup and absolutely love it. Granted, mine is a year old and not the newer models that they currently make, but it is well worth the price (I paid $550 w/shipping and handling). It is built like a tank and has worked flawlessly for me. If price is no option then you should consider it. Their web address is: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/extreme Have fun. --

I don't mean to be critical here but can someone tell me what the advantage of a $1200 or $550 wheel are over my $100 GP1 ? My GP1 has performed well for me. It took me awhile to get used to but I can never return to a joystick now. I saw someone post that they spent $1200 on a wheel and I thought "Gosh, my first car cost me that much money!" Is your $550 wheel smoother, more realistic feeling, come with a redheaded masseuse? JT ------------------------ simulated signature file ------------------------ t>...

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> Kev, > I own an E.C.C.I. wheel and pedals setup and absolutely love it. Granted, > mine is a year old and not the newer models that they currently make, but > it is well worth the price (I paid $550 w/shipping and handling). It is > built like a tank and has worked flawlessly for me. If price is no option > then you should consider it. Their web address is: > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/extreme > Have fun. > --

Joe, I'm sure your GP1 does work great for you. Everyones mileage may vary. I bought a more expensive wheel for durability more than anything else. I have used a friends T2 before and yes it works fine and does the job, but I wouldn't buy one myself. It feels to flimsy. ECCI does offer a newer setup for about $1200. Would I pay that much? Nope, but someone will. BTW, I actually do have a redhaired girlfriend, but she didn't come with the wheel.<G> That would be one helluva marketing concept though! Have fun. --

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>>Well, I just went through my third spring on the pedals of the T2. >>2 brake and one throttle. As I'm trying to wedge the new spring into >>place AGAIN, the black gear that connects the brake pedal to the >>pentiometer snaps off. That's it. I'm done. You'd think for $125+ you >>wouldn't have to crack this thing open every 6 months. >>Now, having had my fill of poorly manufactured, overpriced junk, I'm >>ready to shell out the cash for a wheel/pedal combo that was meant to >>be used more than once a month. The only real contender I've seen is >>the $250.00 Procontrol Racing Wheel II. >>Anyone have any ideas/experience with higher end wheels and could make >>some suggestions/give some advice as to which is best? TIA >>-Kev >Hehe.. this is an easy one.. ECCI CDS5000!! $1600!! >Julian "Mr. Turtle" Data >IVGA Member 0004 >The N2 "SkunksWorks" is in progress >Verite/3DFX owner

I'll look for your contribution check in the mail. :) It does seem that the ECCI CDS2 is the choice. Any other opinions?? -Kev

I've looked at the TSW, the GP1 and the T1 & T2. I purchased the T2 soley because of the price. It was in my budget. I've heard of many people breaking the T2. I can see how that would happen if you can't keep yourself under control. (like I can all the time!!!:)) I have found the T2 to be VERY comfertable and will never go back to a joystick. The only part I don't like is the shifter. If you want a good entry level system with TERRIFIC support, buy the T2. $72 after rebate. -- Lannie Schafroth Pathworks Network Administrator Iowa Network Services, Inc. Voice: 515 830-0443 4201 Corporate Drive Fax: 515 830-0123 West Des Moines, IA 50266 Any statements herein are my own opinion and not that of my employer.

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> >Well, I just went through my third spring on the pedals of the T2. > >2 brake and one throttle. As I'm trying to wedge the new spring into > >place AGAIN, the black gear that connects the brake pedal to the > >pentiometer snaps off. That's it. I'm done. You'd think for $125+ you > >wouldn't have to crack this thing open every 6 months. > >Now, having had my fill of poorly manufactured, overpriced junk, I'm > >ready to shell out the cash for a wheel/pedal combo that was meant to > >be used more than once a month. The only real contender I've seen is > >the $250.00 Procontrol Racing Wheel II. > >Anyone have any ideas/experience with higher end wheels and could make > >some suggestions/give some advice as to which is best? TIA > >-Kev > I've looked at the TSW, the GP1 and the T1 & T2. I purchased the T2 > soley because of the price. It was in my budget. I've heard of many > people breaking the T2. I can see how that would happen if you can't > keep yourself under control. (like I can all the time!!!:)) > I have found the T2 to be VERY comfertable and will never go back > to a joystick. The only part I don't like is the shifter. > If you want a good entry level system with TERRIFIC support, buy > the T2. $72 after rebate.

I was just about to post saying everyone who broke their T2 was a lead-footed troglodyte who just needed to learn how to take care of their stuff, then I broke a gas-pedal spring. Gee it happens to the best of us. ;> -jody- http://www.geocities.com/~jodys_pit_stop/

Lannie - I just bought a T2, and I'm pretty satisfied with it other than a problem getting a couple of games to work the pedals after Thrustmaster changed their circuitry to alleviate the need for the adapter (Screamer II, for example). Still working on that one. But, what's this I hear about a rebate? I paid $116 through www.cdw.com (Computer Discount Warehouse). I'd certainly like to take advantage of this rebate. Where do I get a coupon? Thanks, Rich

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> >>I have found the T2 to be VERY comfertable and will never go back > >>to a joystick. The only part I don't like is the shifter. > >Hello, > >I was thinking of purchasing the T2 BECAUSE of the shifter. What is > >it that you don't like about it? > >I presently use the CH Virtual Pilot Pro. It works pretty good, but > >the degrees of steering is low. the main thing I want to get the T2 > >for is the shifter. > >Real indy cars have shifters that are not on the steering wheel, and I > >feel it would be more realistic to have to take a hand off the wheel > >in order to shift. It might also motivate me more to work on creating > >a good setup that iliminates shifts at critical turns. > >Thanks, > >Paul > >To reply by email, remove the words NO*SPAM from my > >email address. Thanks. > F1 put their shifter on their wheel.. > T2's wheel is fine, it just the pedal that created the most problem (in

my > opinion)

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>>>I have found the T2 to be VERY comfertable and will never go back >>>to a joystick. The only part I don't like is the shifter. >>Hello, >>I was thinking of purchasing the T2 BECAUSE of the shifter. What is >>it that you don't like about it? >>I presently use the CH Virtual Pilot Pro. It works pretty good, but >>the degrees of steering is low. the main thing I want to get the T2 >>for is the shifter. >>Real indy cars have shifters that are not on the steering wheel, and I >>feel it would be more realistic to have to take a hand off the wheel >>in order to shift. It might also motivate me more to work on creating >>a good setup that iliminates shifts at critical turns. >>Thanks, >>Paul >>To reply by email, remove the words NO*SPAM from my >>email address. Thanks. >F1 put their shifter on their wheel.. >T2's wheel is fine, it just the pedal that created the most problem (in my >opinion)

Amen. This was my post originally and that was my gripe. I don't think I should have to tear the pedals apart every 6 months to replace a spring I had to wait a week to get from Tmaster. I use the wheel quite often and the pedals just aren't built well enough. -Kev

>I presently use the CH Virtual Pilot Pro. It works pretty good, but >the degrees of steering is low. the main thing I want to get the T2 >for is the shifter. Hi Paul, I used a CH VPPro for almost a year on Hawaii and I just got an ECCI wheel and pedal combo. It's an extremely high quality wheel. I would recommend it to anyone who's willing to pay for quality. I must admit it's been a little difficult to get used to steering with 170-240 degrees of wheel travel when you've been using about 40 deg max maybe<G> Those tiny little movements that used to get my tail waggin with the CH didn't seem to do anything when I first tried the ECCI. I had to re-train my brain to make movements at more than a micro inch at a time. The ECCI is adjustable so I could adjust it to be more like the CH but I know it'll be much better in the long run after I get used to it. After only a few races I must admit that I can still qualify as good or better with the CH but due to the decreased sensitivity of the ECCI I'm already racing much better in traffic (Except maybe Wed Nite at Richmond... If Miral's reading this<G>). Take a look at it at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/extreme/ I like realism as long as it doesn't adversely effect my lap times. In this case, I'd much rather use the buttons which allow me to keep both hands on the wheel while cornering. Same thing goes for my easy chair and air conditining... can't race without em ;-) Member - Hawaii Ace League http://www.dithots.org/hal

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> >>>I have found the T2 to be VERY comfertable and will never go back > >>>to a joystick. The only part I don't like is the shifter. > >>Hello, > >>I was thinking of purchasing the T2 BECAUSE of the shifter. What is > >>it that you don't like about it? > >>I presently use the CH Virtual Pilot Pro. It works pretty good, but > >>the degrees of steering is low. the main thing I want to get the T2 > >>for is the shifter. > >>Real indy cars have shifters that are not on the steering wheel, and I > >>feel it would be more realistic to have to take a hand off the wheel > >>in order to shift. It might also motivate me more to work on creating > >>a good setup that iliminates shifts at critical turns. > >>Thanks, > >>Paul > >>To reply by email, remove the words NO*SPAM from my > >>email address. Thanks. > >F1 put their shifter on their wheel.. > >T2's wheel is fine, it just the pedal that created the most problem (in my > >opinion) > Amen. This was my post originally and that was my gripe. I don't think > I should have to tear the pedals apart every 6 months to replace a > spring I had to wait a week to get from Tmaster. I use the wheel quite > often and the pedals just aren't built well enough. > -Kev

Check out Sierra's site at www.sierra.com, they have an article posted there on the best wheel/pedal combo, and they have one in the comparison that I have never heard of before, it sells for about $700, and looked great. But that price! Pat Murphy