NFS 2 - not BAD at all !

Do yourself a favor and ditch the ATI card. --

>What is the matter with all you people >You have a brilliant game with videos out of this >world. Who cares about useless videos that affect the gameplay in no way whatsoever? Just did, P200, 48MB RAM, ATI Mach 64, Diamond Monster 3D 3dfx (unised by NFS of course), 12x CD-ROM. And I STILL say NFS2 performance sucks, especially in***pit mode. (And to spare you the embarassment of spouting the usual "something's wrong with your computer" idiocy in response, no there's nothing wrong with the setup, I have almost every racer in existence on the computer and I know a crappy framerate when I see one). It has way LESS features than the original. Features removed in NFS 2: - cops - non-circuit tracks - realistic cars - good music and user interface - working replay system - usable frame-rate I agree it makes people say "shit" - as in "SHIT! I got ripped off for this crappy game!" Yes, I bought it. So did most other reviewers, as would be obvious if you had even read them. Almost every racing game I've ever bought (with the notable exception of POD) is better in almost every way than NFS 2. Joe

It's on my motherboard so I can't "ditch"it, though I could replace it with a new card in my free PCI slot. Does the Mach have really bad 2D performance or something? I don't expect to be playing many non-3d accelerated games before long, so it would have to be worth a pretty dramatic improvement for it to be worth my while buying a new 2d board. Joe

>What is the matter with all you people [flame bait removed] I could care less about the scenery, handling, etc... They took out the COPS, and for that stupidity I never intend to buy this title. ---- HINT for sentients wishing to email: remove the Xs

Joe, now I know why you had a frame rate problem with NFS2! I convinced a friend to get rid of his, he stuck in an OEM Trio and his bench jumped 50% in CBench! Great in windows but they suck in Dos. Not a *** card to say the least! Pete

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> >Do yourself a favor and ditch the ATI card. > It's on my motherboard so I can't "ditch"it, though I could replace it > with a new card in my free PCI slot. Does the Mach have really bad 2D > performance or something? I don't expect to be playing many non-3d > accelerated games before long, so it would have to be worth a pretty > dramatic improvement for it to be worth my while buying a new 2d > board. > Joe

?? Oh, now I've heard it all... =-Rigs-=

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>>>I could care less about the scenery, handling, etc... They took out >>>the COPS, and for that stupidity I never intend to buy this title. >>?? >>Oh, now I've heard it all... >Actually, it didn't take much to make me decide against it, after I >discovered no voodoo support was planned. >And I doubt if I'm alone in enjoying buzzing a cop and hear his sirens >doppler by at 200 MPH. Or, being chased on Alpine through the tunnels >and in swerving between mini vans and pickups trying to outrun Mr. >Fuzz. >--kodiak >who thinks NFS is best with a villain

Nope, you're not alone. I was actually hoping they would IMPROVE the cop and make him give the AI car tickets like in the old game Test Drive2, where you could be outrunning the cop and somehow squeeze your way past the AI car, and if the cop also got past the AI car it would ticket him. NFS2 is a huge step back, the cars handle like crap, they are all alike, and the oval tracks are about as fun as Whiplash oval tracks, what happened to the great staged course tracks that had been a winning formula as far back as the Test Drive games? It's almost as if the NFS team decided to remove ALL the features that made NFS superior to every other Arcade racer game out there. And this was despite have a huge list of customer feedback on what features to add on to NFS for NFS2. Hell I would have paid good money for a track/car add-on pack for NFS and it would have been much better than NFS2. Oh well, no sale on NFS2 for me. Awaiting some great 3dfx capable race sims/games to go with my Monster3D, and hoping the NFS team will get a clue... NFS2 is no better than RoadRash the other stinker of a race game recently put out by EA. Meantime I'll keep enjoying NFSSE and MotoRacer if it ever releases here in the USA. Cheers. --John (fan of ICR2, GP2, N2, NFS, Stunts etc...) -- Note: my real e-mail address is below. Delete the asterisks. ------------------------------+------------------------- Seattle, Washington USA. | http://www.cool.com/~jsilva

One thing that baffles me about NFS2 is the fact that you can have Sunday Drivers (traffic) on a closed circuit????

> One thing that baffles me about NFS2 is the fact that you can have Sunday > Drivers (traffic) on a closed circuit???? What about the VW Bug burning *** in the first three gears on your high speed run of 80 M.P.H.? It looks like it lays down 50ft of *** in each gear! The best I could ever manage with my old 1970 bug (real) was about 7ft, accomplished by flooring it, and dumping the clutch in reverse. :) Sean

Add me to the list of people who are just dumbfounded at how pathetic Need for Speed 2 is. No segment racing, no cops, only a few "traffic" cars, it just sucks royally. While I'm not one of the probably 10 people on the planet that have actually driven the McLaren car, I would be willing to bet it doesn't handle as bad as it does in this shitty game. Way to go EA, you have desecrated the excellent original Need For Speed just like Caddyshack2 did to Caddyshack. Please fire the crackheads that were in charge of this project. > > One thing that baffles me about NFS2 is the fact that you can have Sunday

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> > Drivers (traffic) on a closed circuit???? > What about the VW Bug burning *** in the first three gears on your > high speed run of 80 M.P.H.? It looks like it lays down 50ft of *** > in each gear! The best I could ever manage with my old 1970 bug (real) > was about 7ft, accomplished by flooring it, and dumping the clutch in > reverse. :) > Sean