Psygnosis F1 - Trees

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>><snip> >> game, I seriously doubt you will be giving Mr Crammond's brainchild >> much playtime any more. Whilst F1 is not an out and out sim, even the >> arcade mode is more true to life than GP2 ever felt. And as for the >> frame rate issue, well Mr Crammond has left the building (to write a >> Renditon Redline API one would hope) >or a 3dfx version ;)

So I take it Psygnosis F1 DOESN'T support the 3dfx? If not, what the hell is wrong with these people?! Don't they like money? The first company that puts out an even half-decent sim with 3d card support is going to make about 100,000 "free" sales, no advertising needed, from every 3d card owner on the planet (i.e., since there are no 3dfx racers out yet, we are starved for one). Even six months ago you maybe could have gotten away with an unaccelerated game, to release one today is a sign of total brain death. Might as well pull the plug. Joe

or a 3dfx version ;) I'm one very sad 3dfx owner - the framerate is fine but there is NO sense of speed at all and the framerate stutters all the time :( IMO GP2 is 10 times better looking and feels much much faster even running at <20fps :( Back to GP2 for me. Rob

Re: frame rate problems... And your hardware... I'm amazed that this game gave you frame rate problems, unless it is not using your 3D card? What about the 3dfx? Does this game support the 3dfx? Joe

Apart from Monaco, circuits with trees, i.e. Spa, Montreal, Hockenheim, seem to have the worst frame rates. For example, as you enter the Hockenheim stadium section it appears that you've just had a turbo boost. The solution here is to set the resolution to medium which, whilst it isn't quite as pretty as high resolution, doesn't affect gameplay at all and is still far superior to the graphics on the PS game. My favourite circuit so far is Magny Cours, which has a stonking frame rate and presents a neat challenge too. Funny because France is never a race I really look forward to on TV. Despite comments on this newsgroup about the lack of a***pit, this doesn't matter when you actually play the game. I mean what's so great about that inanimate steering wheel in GP2 any way. When you all get this game, I seriously doubt you will be giving Mr Crammond's brainchild much playtime any more. Whilst F1 is not an out and out sim, even the arcade mode is more true to life than GP2 ever felt. And as for the frame rate issue, well Mr Crammond has left the building (to write a Renditon Redline API one would hope) Best wishes to all simmers around the globe Chris Wright P200mmx, 512kb pbd, 32mb ram, 3d blaster, T2 (not boasting - just thoguht you might like to know what I'm running so you can judge frame rate - if I wanted to brag these days I'd need a Pentium 2) "If you stand still you'll get blown off" - Niki Lauda

Pfft... You must be feeling low to boast bout your computer.

>> So I take it Psygnosis F1 DOESN'T support the 3dfx? >[Mucho ranting snipped...] >Native support for both 3dFX and Rendition is supported out of the box, and >a Direct3D version is also included for the more cerebrally challenged >among us who somehow came to the conclusion that the 3dFX wasn't the best >3D card... :) OK, so I'll turn my RANT mode off then. I will probably check out this game, becaue I have a 3dfx and I do like arcade racers if well done (like NFS 1 and Moto Racer). Joe

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>>><snip> >>> game, I seriously doubt you will be giving Mr Crammond's brainchild >>> much playtime any more. Whilst F1 is not an out and out sim, even the >>> arcade mode is more true to life than GP2 ever felt. And as for the >>> frame rate issue, well Mr Crammond has left the building (to write a >>> Renditon Redline API one would hope) >>or a 3dfx version ;) >So I take it Psygnosis F1 DOESN'T support the 3dfx? >If not, what the hell is wrong with these people?! Don't they like >money? The first company that puts out an even half-decent sim with 3d >card support is going to make about 100,000 "free" sales, no >advertising needed, from every 3d card owner on the planet (i.e., >since there are no 3dfx racers out yet, we are starved for one). Even >six months ago you maybe could have gotten away with an unaccelerated >game, to release one today is a sign of total brain death. Might as >well pull the plug.

It does and its crap. Frame-rate is high but it st.st.st.stutters about even driving in a straight line with no other cars in view. AI Sucks, Cars look like they are made of ***, track texture flows backwards at high speeds, control options are crap, menus are crap, sound is crap. How did this get released ? Is the renditopn version any better ? Rob.

On top of all the other stuff... You guys with it already, does it support networking? I heard as a rumor it was dropped. thanks. Q.B.M.

> So I take it Psygnosis F1 DOESN'T support the 3dfx? [Mucho ranting snipped...] Native support for both 3dFX and Rendition is supported out of the box, and a Direct3D version is also included for the more cerebrally challenged among us who somehow came to the conclusion that the 3dFX wasn't the best 3D card... :) Only kidding guys...?! -- Cheers! John (SRN-Europe) (Remove "NOSPAM" from address before replying...)

The Rendition version and Direct3D versions are reportedly not as spiffing as the 3dFX version which runs without a hitch on a P-150 even (2x75). On my system (P-225mmx) even "Ninja" mode runs supersmooth and looks incredible. Just a shame about the rest of the game..... :( Waahey! I'm standing still!! -- Cheers! John (SRN-Europe) (Remove "NOSPAM" from address before replying...)

You heard right, it was dropped. It _may_ be released later as a patch, but don't hold your breath. This is far from decided. I've now tried all three versions of F1 (3dFX, Rendition and D3D) and found them all to be playable. It's no GP2 or ICR2, but if all you're looking for is a fun arcade racer then it meets that demand - looks totally great too. So, no***pit and no networking...but it has the performance! :) -- Cheers! John (SRN-Europe) (Remove "NOSPAM" from address before replying...)

QBM: JOHN: R: Well then why wouldn't I just stick with ICR2 Rendition version. We know that looks good and runs great. Plus we can link 2 players together. F1 is a shell of what they said it was going to be. How can one get e***d about this game? I'll wait for the multiyplayer patch. Psygnosis really dropped the ball with this game. Boo Hoo. Q.B.M.

>>Native support for both 3dFX and Rendition is supported out of the box, and >>a Direct3D version is also included for the more cerebrally challenged >>among us who somehow came to the conclusion that the 3dFX wasn't the best >>3D card... :) cerebrally challenged? You mean all of those of us who still like IndyCar II and NASCAR 2 and decided to get a Rendition for those games? Randy

>Well then why wouldn't I just stick with ICR2 Rendition version. We know that >looks good and runs great. Plus we can link 2 players together. Fine if you have a Rendition card. I have a 3dfx, and Papyrus/Sierra apparently don't want my business. Joe

No, it means "...who somehow came to the conclusion that the 3dFX wasn't the best 3D card". Nothing to do with ICR2 and N2, you can play those without a 3D card at rapid frame-rates. Granted ICR2 looks rather fetching in its new clothes, but buying a Rendition card for N2 must be somewhat of a disappointment. Note the ":)" - it was intended tongue-in-cheek. -- Cheers! John (SRN-Europe) (Remove "NOSPAM" from address before replying...)

ICR2 and N2 look and play great on a Rendition, but F1 adds a lot more dimension to the graphics. What really adds to it are the shadows from trees,buildings etc and the best line tyre tracks. The road is the most realistic I've ever seen in a sim. As has been said, it's lacking in the sim department, but is the most fun grand prix game there is.

: : It does and its crap. Frame-rate is high but it st.st.st.stutters about : even driving in a straight line with no other cars in view. AI Sucks, Cars look : like they are made of ***, track texture flows backwards at high speeds, : control options are crap, menus are crap, sound is crap. : : How did this get released ? Is the renditopn version any better ? : : Rob. You must have a problem with your setup. I have a P180 with a 3Dfx and it's super fast, no stutters, no backward flowing effect (as in NFS2). The graphics are brilliant, as good as any arcade racer I've seen. I'm using a T2 and CH pedals modified to use Y1 axis. Works great.