N2: ver 1.04 needed ?!

I just tried out the 1.03 patch for NASCAR2. I ran the patch over the 1.02(1) version. Now when I try a testing session at Bristol, the moment I step on the gas the game locks up and sticks in one of the "sound loops". If I first try a practice run under Basic Race option, things seem fine. When I switch back to a solo Testing session, it may run for a while, but then locks up. This happens in both the dma & non-dma rendition mode. (Didn't try it with nascar2.exe.) I have a P5-166 with a Thrustmaster T1 w/ACM card. I did not have any trouble with any of the T1 problems with 1.02(1). I guess it's only fair that those of us who didn't have a complaint with the first patch, should get stuck with a problem with the 2nd patch. ;-) -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Ouch! I hope not. Dave Sparks IWCCCARS Project: http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars Late Night League: http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html Hawaii Handle: davids

I had Nascar 2 crash on me at Bristol after installing the second patch. It had never crashed before. Jim

Yep! The first patch didn't seem to lurch to the right for me. Infact everything was pretty smooth. I installed th new patch yesterday an ran a practice at Bristol (nite), my favorite track that I normally kill 'em at. Could'nt keep it off the wall, maybe it's my wheel but me thinks it's the patch. If so I'll take it out and revert to the first patch I guess. More testing needed at other tracks. Ya just can't win I guess Michael !

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>I just tried out the 1.03 patch for NASCAR2. I ran the patch over the >1.02(1) version. Now when I try a testing session at Bristol, the >moment I step on the gas the game locks up and sticks in one of the >"sound loops". If I first try a practice run under Basic Race option, >things seem fine. When I switch back to a solo Testing session, it may >run for a while, but then locks up. >This happens in both the dma & non-dma rendition mode. (Didn't try it >with nascar2.exe.) I have a P5-166 with a Thrustmaster T1 w/ACM card. >I did not have any trouble with any of the T1 problems with 1.02(1). >I guess it's only fair that those of us who didn't have a complaint with >the first patch, should get stuck with a problem with the 2nd patch. >;-) >-- >**************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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> >I guess it's only fair that those of us who didn't have a complaint with > >the first patch, should get stuck with a problem with the 2nd patch. > >;-) > I had Nascar 2 crash on me at Bristol after installing the second > patch. It had never crashed before. > Jim

Maybe you guys should just go back install the first patch and be done with it all. All the second patch fixes is the lurching and I asume since youi didn't have a compiaint that you didn't have the problem. Nathan Woods

>Maybe you guys should just go back install the first patch and be done with >it all. All the second patch fixes is the lurching and I asume since youi >didn't have a compiaint that you didn't have the problem. > Nathan Woods Nathan - the second patch does fix a few other things, but they are mostly details. STN files text formatting of the header line was fixed, and the qual order is corrected; calendar dates are in correct order; the green border on night c***te is fixed (this one you should be able to keep if you choose to revert to V1.02); restored games include tire temps for outside and middle as well as inside of tires. I haven't seen much response to the patch up here aside from a few complaints about new problems. Has anyone who was having lurching problems and who has a Pentium based system still got joystick or wheel problems? Charlie Heath / Papyrus

...snip... > I haven't seen much response to the patch up here aside from a few > complaints about new problems. Has anyone who was having lurching problems > and who has a Pentium based system still got joystick or wheel problems? > Charlie Heath / Papyrus The joystick problems I had running N2 under Win95 with the first patch were totally fixed by the second patch. Thanks Charlie / Papyrus! Rick

> >I haven't seen much response to the patch up here aside from a few > >complaints about new problems. Has anyone who was having lurching problems > >and who has a Pentium based system still got joystick or wheel problems? > >Charlie Heath / Papyrus The lurching is gone but now it turns Right<oposed to left> into the wall going into turns. P-MMX 166 with a T2 in Dos

I wasn't having problems with the lurch on my newer Pentium, but I was / still am having calibration problems. They aren't really problems, more like anoyances(sp). When I run N2, and go to Options, then calibrate my T1, everything works, at least 90% of the time. But if I go straight to Quick Race, then try to calibrate from that option screen, it almost always screws up the calibration. Ie, the brake turns into the gas after aplying about 2/3s pedal. When looking at the cal values, the break appears normal until it reaches 2/3s then it shows -1 as the value. The fix, for me, is to just exit the program, run N2 again and calibrate from the main menu options screen. No files are deleted. Don't know why, but that is the way it works on my system. Robert

Any all my problems are fixed, too. T2/Win95 perfect! Oh, and I have a Cyrix 166. Thanks Charlie! Dave > ...snip... > > I haven't seen much response to the patch up here aside from a few > > complaints about new problems. Has anyone who was having lurching problems > > and who has a Pentium based system still got joystick or wheel problems? > > Charlie Heath / Papyrus > The joystick problems I had running N2 under Win95 with the first patch > were totally fixed by the second patch. Thanks Charlie / Papyrus! > Rick

PMFJI, Charlie but I just had to say a big THANKS for getting the patch for the patch out so quickly! I had the lurching problem (although it wasn't horrendous) but now it is perfect again with version 1.03. -- -Paul Below is my correct e-mail address, my "reply" address has been changed to defer spammers. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Hi, The 2nd patch for NASCAR 2 fixed my T2 wheel lurching aswell, great work Papy! I do have one suggestion for future patches, however. I found it sort of annoying that I had to use the original track text files from the CD so the patch would install properly. The only modification I made to the files was setting each track so it had maximum field size. Is there any way future patches could simply modify the current files instead of requiring the original files from the CD? I realize that the current install is probably on the safer side. Just a suggestion. However, it is better to have the patch actually install properly, instead of causing problems by complicating the matter. Keep up the great work Papy! John "There will be a rain-dance on friday, weather permitting." -- George Carlin

: Maybe you guys should just go back install the first patch and be done with : it all. All the second patch fixes is the lurching and I asume since youi : didn't have a compiaint that you didn't have the problem. That is not all that was patched with the 2nd patch. And to be truthful, I've experienced the lurching, but very rarely with the first patch. It seems to affect some people way more than others, but I don't really want to have it happen after hours of hard work in a race. But, then I guess I could just chalk it up to mechanical failure. In the meantime I am using the 1.02 version of the .exe -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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>>Maybe you guys should just go back install the first patch and be done with >>it all. All the second patch fixes is the lurching and I asume since youi >>didn't have a compiaint that you didn't have the problem. >> Nathan Woods >Nathan - the second patch does fix a few other things, but they are mostly >details. >STN files text formatting of the header line was fixed, and the qual order >is corrected; calendar dates are in correct order; the green border on >night c***te is fixed (this one you should be able to keep if you choose >to revert to V1.02); restored games include tire temps for outside and >middle as well as inside of tires. >I haven't seen much response to the patch up here aside from a few >complaints about new problems. Has anyone who was having lurching problems >and who has a Pentium based system still got joystick or wheel problems? >Charlie Heath / Papyrus

Charlie,I still get a slight twitch at Talledaga and Sears Point,and Dover.It doesn't seem to be all that bad and think I can live with it.I'm running a p200 w/32 megs of ram and an Intergraph Reactor card,T2 w/ACM game card. Only major complaint here is the lack of AA.Having purchased a 3d card just for N2 I feel kinda cheated after seeing how awsome ICR2 is.How about it Pappy?Thanks for the quick work on the second patch. RJ

The patch fixxed the lurch on my P120 WIN95 TAANKS Charlie / Papy Curt ( windwalker ) C & M MOTORSPORTS C & M ENTERPRISES CHEVY MONTE CARLO

No, but actually, after installing the second patch, I still occasionally get a lurch.