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>Nfs2 is the best game ever! It is total crap, the worst driving game ever made. Terrible control, lousy cars (unrealistic and all feel the same), boring fantasy tracks (no non-circuits, no cops), horrendous frame rate problems, crappy user interface, even the music sucks. There is just nothing to like about this game. Maybe you could post why you like it? A content free "it's great" is not very useful for a game with such a [deserved] bad reputation. Joe

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> >Nfs2 is the best game ever! > It is total crap, the worst driving game ever made. Terrible control, > lousy cars (unrealistic and all feel the same), boring fantasy tracks > (no non-circuits, no cops), horrendous frame rate problems, crappy > user interface, even the music sucks. There is just nothing to like > about this game. > Maybe you could post why you like it? A content free "it's great" is > not very useful for a game with such a [deserved] bad reputation. > Joe

True, he should have said more, but I just have to disagree with you on several of those points. The cars DO sound and feel different unlike Test Drive: Off Road where all trucks sounded like a semi and the car horns reminded me of my dad's old Mitsubishi. Yes, the cops are gone, but who needs them when you've got semitrucks, school buses, limos, and armored cars. If you say your game runs awful on a P200 then it must be a really crappy P200 because I'm on a P200/32MB RAM with all details on and it is MUCH faster than NFS1. Music is alot better too (snappier beat and changes with car's performance), the interface is cool too. The only thing I agree with you on is the track part. There, now how's THAT for content! Best regards, Sam

>cars. If you say your game runs awful on a P200 then it must be a really >crappy P200 because I'm on a P200/32MB RAM with all details on and it is >MUCH faster than NFS1. Please, don't start this ***again. This is pure BS. With the***pit turned on NFS2 is AT LEAST twice as slow as NFS 1, on any system. It's a matter of taste, but I found the NFS2 music anoying. The NFS1 music was just CD tracks, only in the menus, but it rocked. The interface is just BAD, and that is my professional opinion as someone with univerity post-graduate computer science studies in user interfaces, plus 13 years experience implementing successful ones. NFS2 makes fundamantal interface errors, like only allowing menus to scroll in one direction, and only showing one item at a time, both combining to make it difficult to select or even find the item you want. That's the basic kind of thing you learn in about the first five minutes of a user interface development course. Other basic errors - like flashy "sliding" menus that you have to wait extra time for - are just minor annoyances, but errors nonetheless. Which is a pretty important part. I just bought "Network Q RAC Rally" - good driving gameplay, and over *300 MILES* of real-world terrain on 28 tracks. Plus an addon of 10 more tracks available. I played for six hours last night and I haven't even played all the tracks yet. What the hell has EA been doing the last two years? Good - you provided reasons for your opinions, which I appreciate. All except the frame-rate nonsense. Joe

>>cars. If you say your game runs awful on a P200 then it must be a really >>crappy P200 because I'm on a P200/32MB RAM with all details on and it is >>MUCH faster than NFS1. >Please, don't start this ***again. This is pure BS. With the***pit >turned on NFS2 is AT LEAST twice as slow as NFS 1, on any system. There you go again. Why do you insist that this is the case? Because of your own personal experience? So just because you have "post-graduate computer science studies" means that you are the expert? User interfaces are a matter of personal taste. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that someone else won't. And what exactly is a "successful" user interface? I have no problem locating the items that I am looking for. It just takes about 5 minutes to familiarize yourself with the way things are set up. I will third that motion. The tracks suck. ********************************************** Todd Walker T-Type on IRC Homepage: [link lost in import] 1986 Buick Regal T-Type **********************************************

: >cars. If you say your game runs awful on a P200 then it must be a really : >crappy P200 because I'm on a P200/32MB RAM with all details on and it is : >MUCH faster than NFS1. : Please, don't start this ***again. This is pure BS. With the***pit : turned on NFS2 is AT LEAST twice as slow as NFS 1, on any system. Hmm, try it on an MMX system, on my 166MMX the frame rate is constantly high. -- \ _ / o o \_(0)_/ \ / +---=====(]( + )[)=====---+ \__ /0\ __/ My opinions are my own, and are right. O O \__\___/__/ O O / (_) \

>>Please, don't start this ***again. This is pure BS. With the***pit >>turned on NFS2 is AT LEAST twice as slow as NFS 1, on any system. >There you go again. Why do you insist that this is the case? Because >of your own personal experience? Because it's the truth. Period. Anyone who claims otherwise is either fooling themselves or doesn't know what they are talking about. Combined with 13 years professional experience in the field, yes it does. Well, this prooves for sure that YOU are not an expert. Nothing could be further from the truth. User interface design is a highly scientific field, following basic principles of human perception and interaction that have been scientifically researched for decades. A) One that doesn't break the most basic rules that the science of user interface research has discovered, and B) Makes money. A good user interface (especially for a task as simple as setting up and arcade game) does not take ANY time to "familiarize yourself". And of course, a good one doesn't continually irritate you by making it slow to select what you want. Joe

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>>Nfs2 is the best game ever! >It is total crap, the worst driving game ever made. Terrible control, >lousy cars (unrealistic and all feel the same), boring fantasy tracks >(no non-circuits, no cops), horrendous frame rate problems, crappy >user interface, even the music sucks. There is just nothing to like >about this game. >Maybe you could post why you like it? A content free "it's great" is >not very useful for a game with such a [deserved] bad reputation. >Joe

It isn't as bad as the x-car demo. ***

>It isn't as bad as the x-car demo. *** I think that's what is called "damning with faint praise", Scott! <g> Joe

I'm afraid I have to share this chaps comments on NFS 2. As a great fan of the original NFS, I found NFS2 a complete backward step. Am I correct in presuming non of the original development team were involved in this effort, or did they just not listen to the comments of avid NFS fans? Sure, NFS2 is very pretty, with fancy video clips and music, but as soon as you get into the game there is nothing whatsoever to rant about (apart from how bad it is). Twitchy, over-sensitive controls. Awful sound effects. Bad tracks. Exactly what has been said before. About the *only* thing I liked about NFS2 was that I could finally use my pedals, which seemed a waste of time because you're either on the power or off anyway - what happened to power oversteer?! Anyone who liked NFS just the way it was, with a few minor foibles :- DONT buy NFS2. Anyone who found NFS too hard, wanted something more basic :- TRY NFS2 before you buy it :-) Just my 2 penneth. Cheers, Dan Howell