GP2 $$$

> OK Gary. Is this your definition of "facts"? > This discussion is closed. Hmmmm, You ask me a question and then close the discussion. Makes your ability to debate subject. Must _be_ the subject. Well Kota I must apologize. GP2 _will_ run on a p133 or higher. However, If you want 20-25 (30 is video speed) fps and to keep the CPU occupancy under 120(140-200 in replay at the most least content filled tracks) expect to turn off all details and trackside objects except for maybe "fences"(one small goodie) and dont expect to actually race more than one car in front of you at a time, or you'll be reminded of watching those boring slide shows in Science class back in school. If you desire to have a thrill at the premiere track, Monico, expect almost a 30 to 40% drop in performance with any detail on. It will run acceptable smooth(SVGA) with NO detail, but you'll also feel like your playing a game of the 80's. Also If you have a buddy that you would like to hook up via modem with, expect the framerate to drop to a sluggish 3 fps(this even being on a p200)Impossible. If you get irritated with the horrible performance expect absolutely NO support, "patch" or "update" from their creator. Too many "ifs" and "alsos" in there for me to consider this product fininshed. I paid _full_ price for it however. Now these _are_ facts based on testing. P200 doesnt show a tremedous difference. If you are courious at how serious I am about my simulator "testing", how I derive at my conclusions and my demand for realism, goto: alt.binaries.simulators.autos I tend to be a perfectionist and GP2 if far from perfect. -David Gary- BTW Jo, EOD (End of Discussion)

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> > If you are courious at how serious I am about my simulator "testing", > > how I derive at my > > conclusions and my demand for realism, goto: > > alt.binaries.simulators.autos > > I tend to be a perfectionist and GP2 if far from perfect. > Well, I had a look and I was totaly gob-smacked. > It looks like a 41inch or bigger rear projection tv with big stereo > speakers and the***pit shell front half of a racing car complete with > wheels! > If you can't test racing games with that then you can' t test racing games. > I'm now looking at my piddly monitor and want to throw it out of the window > ...

Haha(Thats funny) Actually its a 60" Mits(At the time it was the largest rear projection) Gona go ahead and put it in the bedroom and get the 80' soon(grin). Got total surround and just installed a subwoofer in the seat.(Makes all the difference in the world). I also have a second tele line with hands free headset to talk(taunt) to my veteran modem buddy direct. We have alot of fun. I am thinking about going ahead and ordering the hydrolics, but the wife will only let me go so far!(grin) Anyway now all I need is a F1 sim thats worth a damn. As for now ICR2 and N2 are juuuust fine. Take care, -David Gary-

Is GP2 worth $30? How is it compared to Indycar II? Thanx again, Soho

> Is GP2 worth $30? IMO yes more involved setups Much more CPU demanding slightly more forgiving colision physics IMO worse AI (I think many people would disagree here) more sharp handling more easy to spin off the track better control senisivity options (this is a big plus IMO)

> Is GP2 worth $30? > How is it compared to Indycar II? > Thanx again, > Soho If you dont have a p200 or faster, dont think about running GP2 in SVGA with any graphics on. Ever played GP1? Thats what you'll get with a better dynamics model. ICR2 is smooooooth on anything above a p90. Control is everthing and only a good framerate will get you there. If you _do_ purchase GP2, get the reciept and ask them about their return policy. Good luck, HTH -DG- oh, (IMO)

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>> Is GP2 worth $30? >> How is it compared to Indycar II? >> Thanx again, >> Soho >If you dont have a p200 or faster, dont think about running GP2 >in SVGA with any graphics on. Ever played GP1? Thats what you'll >get with a better dynamics model.

OK Gary. Is this your definition of "facts"? This discussion is closed. Kota, you won't find many games which offer you more fun for money than GP2. If you own a P133 or better, there's no reason you wouldn't enjoy it if you like sim racing. Try it out! JoH =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= When everything else failed, we can still become im- mortal by making an enormous blunder.... John Kenneth Galbraith =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Well, I had a look and I was totaly gob-smacked. It looks like a 41inch or bigger rear projection tv with big stereo speakers and the***pit shell front half of a racing car complete with wheels! If you can't test racing games with that then you can' t test racing games. I'm now looking at my piddly monitor and want to throw it out of the window ... I used to think my F1SIM setup was good ....;o[