Can somebody give me some, erm, sound advice about the app. & core.ini
settings for AC97 (on-board) sound? I can't seem to get it right. I either
don't get very good positional (3D/surround) sound OR I get
headache-inducing reverb FX. TIA.
"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Audigy2. End of advice.
dave henrie
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> Can somebody give me some, erm, sound advice about the app. & core.ini > settings for AC97 (on-board) sound? I can't seem to get it right. I > either don't get very good positional (3D/surround) sound OR I get > headache-inducing reverb FX. TIA. > > >Steve Smith wrote:
> Can somebody give me some, erm, sound advice about the app. & core.ini
> settings for AC97 (on-board) sound? I can't seem to get it right. I either
> don't get very good positional (3D/surround) sound OR I get
> headache-inducing reverb FX. TIA.
I've gone round-and-round with my Nforce2 on-board board sound.
Depending on what drivers and settings I run, I can take my pick of
audio distortions. ;)
As much as I hate to say it, I've had good results with an ancient (and
now rather cheap) SB-Live. Make sure you get the insallation CD with
the card, the SOB's at Creative won't make functional installation
drivers available. At least the W98 drivers... they don't recognise the
card as 'Genuine Creative' or some such crap.
I'd never pay Creative 60+ bucks for an Audigy.
-Greg
Easy for you to say, but I've got a Fragbox, and even if there was room in
its Lilliputian case, I doubt that the 220W power supply could handle it.
Besides, it's not the quality of the sound that's an issue here, it's the
game settings that are adding reverb and/or determining surround-sound
effects.
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> "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:LXFvc.286253$[email hidden]: > > > Can somebody give me some, erm, sound advice about the app. & core.ini > > settings for AC97 (on-board) sound? I can't seem to get it right. I > > either don't get very good positional (3D/surround) sound OR I get > > headache-inducing reverb FX. TIA. > > > > > > > > Audigy2. End of advice. > > dave henrieThe Audigy 2 CS (or CZ, I forget which) is definitely worth the money (it's
a cheaper way to improve the fps than a new CPU...and the sound is great)
but I need some advice on the game settings - see answer to Dave, above,
"Greg Campbell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Steve Smith wrote:
>
> > Can somebody give me some, erm, sound advice about the app. & core.ini
> > settings for AC97 (on-board) sound? I can't seem to get it right. Ieither
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> > don't get very good positional (3D/surround) sound OR I get > > headache-inducing reverb FX. TIA. > > I've gone round-and-round with my Nforce2 on-board board sound. > Depending on what drivers and settings I run, I can take my pick of > audio distortions. ;) > > As much as I hate to say it, I've had good results with an ancient (and > now rather cheap) SB-Live. Make sure you get the insallation CD with > the card, the SOB's at Creative won't make functional installation > drivers available. At least the W98 drivers... they don't recognise the > card as 'Genuine Creative' or some such crap. > > I'd never pay Creative 60+ bucks for an Audigy. > > -Greg > > > >"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Well, then, that is a problem. I haven't touched my sound settings
since installation. I don't have a clue in that area. I will say
tho...that the newer video cards are power sluts. THe Nvidia 6800 is
recommending power supplies of 480 watts. If possible, I'd try and find
a way to upgrade that 220 unit. Good luck.
dave henrie
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> Easy for you to say, but I've got a Fragbox, and even if there was > room in its Lilliputian case, I doubt that the 220W power supply could > handle it. > > Besides, it's not the quality of the sound that's an issue here, it's > the game settings that are adding reverb and/or determining > surround-sound effects. >Dave, all,
You can't upgrade the PSU in a SFF unit like the Shuttle (or in the case of
the Fragbox, the Ice). Besides, the FBP is designed that way (to work w. a
nV 5950) and I don't question the expertise of Falcon NW enuf to change it.
Since nobody seemed to have any quick answers, I did some experiments on my
own.
In the core.ini file, there's a [Sound] stanza that looks like this outta
the box:
*************************
allow_buffer_recreation=0
; re-create sound buffers to improve quality
convert_3d_stereo=1
; convert stereo to mono for positional sounds in 3d mode
enable_3d_interpolation=1
; enable volume interpolation for 3d sound
force_default_buffer_size=0
; Set forced buffer size in 1/36 second units. Define a value of 3 or larger
force_min_readahead=3.000000
; Set forced read ahead, expressed in 1/36 second ticks.
interpolationValue=0
*************************
Changing "allow_buffer_recreation" to a value of 1 to "improve quality"
results in a gawdawful reverb effect.
Note that the default value for "force_default_buffer_size" is zero, despite
the admonition to "define a value of 3 or larger."
Changing the value to 3 seems to have no effect whatsoever.
Feel free to post empirical results of yer own.
CYA!
--Steve
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> "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:RjYvc.294807$[email hidden]: > > > Easy for you to say, but I've got a Fragbox, and even if there was > > room in its Lilliputian case, I doubt that the 220W power supply could > > handle it. > > > > Besides, it's not the quality of the sound that's an issue here, it's > > the game settings that are adding reverb and/or determining > > surround-sound effects. > > > > Well, then, that is a problem. I haven't touched my sound settings > since installation. I don't have a clue in that area. I will say > tho...that the newer video cards are power sluts. THe Nvidia 6800 is > recommending power supplies of 480 watts. If possible, I'd try and find > a way to upgrade that 220 unit. Good luck. > > > dave henrieAnd another thing: checking the "3D Sound" box in the Options menu results
in incredibly pinched, tinny sound (I've got a very robust Logi Z680 5.1
speaker setup), so uncheck it. Oh well, Papy never did know anything abt.
audio....
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> "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:RjYvc.294807$[email hidden]: > > > Easy for you to say, but I've got a Fragbox, and even if there was > > room in its Lilliputian case, I doubt that the 220W power supply could > > handle it. > > > > Besides, it's not the quality of the sound that's an issue here, it's > > the game settings that are adding reverb and/or determining > > surround-sound effects. > > > > Well, then, that is a problem. I haven't touched my sound settings > since installation. I don't have a clue in that area. I will say > tho...that the newer video cards are power sluts. THe Nvidia 6800 is > recommending power supplies of 480 watts. If possible, I'd try and find > a way to upgrade that 220 unit. Good luck. > > > dave henrieSteve Smith wrote:
I farted with those as well, and wound up with the same (negative)
results. :(
Good luck!
-Greg
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> In the core.ini file, there's a [Sound] stanza that looks like this outta > the box: > > ************************* > allow_buffer_recreation=0 > ; re-create sound buffers to improve quality > .... > Feel free to post empirical results of yer own. > > CYA! > > --Steve> Can somebody give me some, erm, sound advice about the app. & core.ini
> settings for AC97 (on-board) sound? I can't seem to get it right. I
> either don't get very good positional (3D/surround) sound OR I get
> headache-inducing reverb FX. TIA.
I remember when I first used N2003 I had the same problem. It would default to the Quarry setting in the sound effects.
I upgraded my AC97 drivers and it cured the problem. What I did before this was to open N2003 hold down the alt key and
press the tab key Then when on the desktop click on the sound effect in the taskbar and change from Quarry to none and
then go back to the game. Hope this helps.
Thx, Abe!
The Fragbox is only a week or two old, so I doubt that the drivers are
out-of-date; Falcon NW is famous for tweaking every computer they sell (you
get a lab print-out of all the tests they've performed on *your* unit).
Could be, tho. I'm getting some flashing in N2003, so FNW might not have
used the latest nVidia drivers...altho I'm reluctant to mess w. what is
otherwise a splendid machine (2.4-MHz P4, gig of 3200 RAM, the 5950 Ultra,
1394, USB 2.0, 120-gig WD Spl. Ed., etc.). It runs like Jacques le Ursine
with GTR, for example (and Far Cry, CoD, FS2004, and LOMAC). It has enuf
juice left over that I could prolly throw in my mAudio 7.1 Revolution
(infamous as a fps-eater) and still turn everything up to "11".
Going back to the N2003 defaults cured most of the sound probs. That...and
unchecking the "3D Sound" box in the Options/Sound menu. (Where do they
*get* these people?)
--Steve
"Abe Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Can somebody give me some, erm, sound advice about the app. & core.ini
> > settings for AC97 (on-board) sound? I can't seem to get it right. I
> > either don't get very good positional (3D/surround) sound OR I get
> > headache-inducing reverb FX. TIA.
>
> I remember when I first used N2003 I had the same problem. It woulddefault to the Quarry setting in the sound effects.
> I upgraded my AC97 drivers and it cured the problem. What I did beforethis was to open N2003 hold down the alt key and
> press the tab key Then when on the desktop click on the sound effect inthe taskbar and change from Quarry to none and
> then go back to the game. Hope this helps.
"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> Going back to the N2003 defaults cured most of the sound probs.
> That...and unchecking the "3D Sound" box in the Options/Sound menu.
> (Where do they *get* these people?)
>
> --Steve
Geez Steve, that part was soooo common knowledge I figured you had
already done that....NOBODY runs with 3dsound checked. Well almost
nobody...:)
dh
Steve Smith wrote:
> Can somebody give me some, erm, sound advice about the app. & core.ini
> settings for AC97 (on-board) sound? I can't seem to get it right. I either
> don't get very good positional (3D/surround) sound OR I get
> headache-inducing reverb FX. TIA.
Hi Steve,
the latest version of the nForce mobo drivers is 4.24, and in the recent
months new version have brought great improvements especially in the
sound section.
I'd check the drivers.
Achim
Guess I wasn't paying much attention before; was running 2-ch. sound, so
never investigated the vagaries of the "3D Sound" check box. ;o)
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> "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:o19wc.301423$[email hidden]: > > > Going back to the N2003 defaults cured most of the sound probs. > > That...and unchecking the "3D Sound" box in the Options/Sound menu. > > (Where do they *get* these people?) > > > > --Steve > > Geez Steve, that part was soooo common knowledge I figured you had > already done that....NOBODY runs with 3dsound checked. Well almost > nobody...:) > > dhDave Henrie wrote:
> Geez Steve, that part was soooo common knowledge I figured you had
> already done that....NOBODY runs with 3dsound checked. Well almost
> nobody...:)
You mean those who use onboard, or everyone? Because w/o 3D-sound you
miss a lot of the beauty. I've always had it on.
Achim
Thx, Achim
The AC97 audio is VIA, not nVidia (nForce), and I've already got the 3.90a
drivers.
How's the arm?
--Steve
[Tried to email you, but got another "Rejected - Belgacom Domain Blacklist"]
"Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Steve Smith wrote:
> > Can somebody give me some, erm, sound advice about the app. & core.ini
> > settings for AC97 (on-board) sound? I can't seem to get it right. Ieither
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> > don't get very good positional (3D/surround) sound OR I get > > headache-inducing reverb FX. TIA. > > Hi Steve, > > the latest version of the nForce mobo drivers is 4.24, and in the recent > months new version have brought great improvements especially in the > sound section. > > I'd check the drivers. > > AchimThe checkbox seems to be reversed: with it checked, the sound field is
narrow and the freq range like that of an Internet telephone. With it
UNchecked, the whole aural experience opens up...including thru the rear
speakers. Try it; you'll like it.
"Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Dave Henrie wrote: > > Geez Steve, that part was soooo common knowledge I figured you had > > already done that....NOBODY runs with 3dsound checked. Well almost > > nobody...:) > > You mean those who use onboard, or everyone? Because w/o 3D-sound you > miss a lot of the beauty. I've always had it on. > > AchimSteve Smith wrote:
> The checkbox seems to be reversed: with it checked, the sound field is
> narrow and the freq range like that of an Internet telephone. With it
> UNchecked, the whole aural experience opens up...including thru the rear
> speakers. Try it; you'll like it.
Weird, I'll have to try that :)
Achim
Steve Smith wrote:
Ouch, I thought I'd read nForce. Still, newer drivers can't hurt.
The arm - doing ok so far. May need another operation in 6 weeks because
I tore ligaments in the wrist, and they didn't fix that the first time
around (apparently they restricted themselves to the major damage in
that session). Will see.
Regarding the email, try the web.de or the yahoo address I created
specifically for you!
Joel sent me an email recently, he seems to be preparing for the moment
when I can type again :)
Achim
