Lurch documented (Patch)

I debated posting a replay Zip of the lurch effect taking place at Pocono, but decided not to establish a precedent of breaking Net protocol, and letting loose a flood of replay binaries on this group. Instead I will e-mail this file to anyone who requests it. Is there any particular address for Papyrus that I should send it to? The particulars: IBM Aptiva M51 100 mhz Pentium 32 meg Ram (2-16 meg sims) Screamin 3D w/ latest bios update installed GP1 wheel running through older (not sure of specifics) CH gamecard Using "renddma -4" to launch game This replay was recorded running in Win95, but the performance and the effect are virtually identical when running in DOS. The effect is most noticeable from the in-car view. It is not as obvious on the replay as it is while racing (when the car almost seems to jump a few feet), but the car can be seen to swerve noticeably. E-mail me if you would like a copy. -- Ed "A friend of mine suggested I try America Online, I said 'But I already have a computer...'"

Thanks for finally showing that someone with a very fast machine and with 32 megs of RAM is experiencing the same problems as I am. I have a 75mhz machine with 16 megs of RAM and have never had problems with any Papyrus products, even with all graphics turned on. I also recorded a replay of a sudden lurch to the right and can also e-mail it to anyone who requests it. Kirn Cromur

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>I debated posting a replay Zip of the lurch effect taking place at >Pocono, but decided not to establish a precedent of breaking Net >protocol, and letting loose a flood of replay binaries on this group. >Instead I will e-mail this file to anyone who requests it. >Is there any particular address for Papyrus that I should send it to? >The particulars: >IBM Aptiva M51 >100 mhz Pentium >32 meg Ram (2-16 meg sims) >Screamin 3D w/ latest bios update installed >GP1 wheel running through older (not sure of specifics) CH gamecard >Using "renddma -4" to launch game >This replay was recorded running in Win95, but the performance and the >effect are virtually identical when running in DOS. >The effect is most noticeable from the in-car view. It is not as obvious >on the replay as it is while racing (when the car almost seems to jump a >few feet), but the car can be seen to swerve noticeably. >E-mail me if you would like a copy. >-- >Ed >"A friend of mine suggested I try America Online, I said 'But I already >have >a computer...'"

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>Thanks for finally showing that someone with a very fast machine and >with 32 megs of RAM is experiencing the same problems as I am. I have >a 75mhz machine with 16 megs of RAM and have never had problems with >any Papyrus products, even with all graphics turned on. I also >recorded a replay of a sudden lurch to the right and can also e-mail >it to anyone who requests it. >Kirn Cromur >>I debated posting a replay Zip of the lurch effect taking place at >>Pocono, but decided not to establish a precedent of breaking Net >>protocol, and letting loose a flood of replay binaries on this group. >>Instead I will e-mail this file to anyone who requests it. >>Is there any particular address for Papyrus that I should send it to? >>The particulars: >>IBM Aptiva M51 >>100 mhz Pentium >>32 meg Ram (2-16 meg sims) >>Screamin 3D w/ latest bios update installed >>GP1 wheel running through older (not sure of specifics) CH gamecard >>Using "renddma -4" to launch game >>This replay was recorded running in Win95, but the performance and the >>effect are virtually identical when running in DOS. >>The effect is most noticeable from the in-car view. It is not as obvious >>on the replay as it is while racing (when the car almost seems to jump a >>few feet), but the car can be seen to swerve noticeably. >>E-mail me if you would like a copy. >>-- >>Ed >>"A friend of mine suggested I try America Online, I said 'But I already >>have >>a computer...'"

Don't bother with Papyrus I sent my findings to SIERRA .Post on their message board and to their e-mail . that's www.sierra.com They might have more leverage with papy and push for a fix. I would not send anything to papy after they did not even check this patch after it was done. This is obvious because they did not see the reverse race dates. My feeling is they contracted this patch out and passed it along when they got it, without ANY playtesting. This lurching is happening to a lot of users and not everybody reports this Lets let Sierra know and maybe they can get rid of the idiots at Papy that had a hand in this.

> >Don't bother with Papyrus I sent my findings to SIERRA .Post on their -snip- -snip- Thanks for the feedback. The dude you replied to is a little off-the-knob and I am glad to hear a reply. Please keep up the dialogue. I'm not suggesting posting the projected release dates of the next patch -- but keep us posted with what you see as the next things to deal with. You _know_ we'll let you know if your heading in the right direction. ;^} -- Ed Pickart My other sig line is a STOCK CAR. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ATTN: (ReplyTo column munged to discouraged spam) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Let me get this straight: You want Sierra to decide who works at Papyrus? who get's hired and fired? You want Sierra to fire the people who designed N2? And N1, ICR, and Indianapolois 500? Fortunately, I don't believe Sierra has that kind of authority over Papyrus' internal operations, and I definitely don't agree with your assumptions.

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> Don't bother with Papyrus I sent my findings to SIERRA .Post on their > message board and to their e-mail . that's www.sierra.com They might > have more leverage with papy and push for a fix. I would not send > anything to papy after they did not even check this patch after it was > done. This is obvious because they did not see the reverse race dates. > My feeling is they contracted this patch out and passed it along when > they got it, without ANY playtesting. This lurching is happening to a > lot of users and not everybody reports this > Lets let Sierra know and maybe they can get rid of the idiots at > Papy that had a hand in this.

-- Ed "A friend of mine suggested I try America Online, I said 'But I already have a computer...'"

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>Don't bother with Papyrus I sent my findings to SIERRA .Post on their >message board and to their e-mail . that's www.sierra.com They might >have more leverage with papy and push for a fix. I would not send >anything to papy after they did not even check this patch after it was >done. This is obvious because they did not see the reverse race dates. >My feeling is they contracted this patch out and passed it along when >they got it, without ANY playtesting. This lurching is happening to a >lot of users and not everybody reports this > Lets let Sierra know and maybe they can get rid of the idiots at >Papy that had a hand in this.

I did a pretty good chunk of the engineering for the patch. We also did fairly extensive testing at Papyrus, but unfortunately we didn't catch everything; sorry about that. All of the work was done "in house", at Papyrus. Info will make its way back to Papyrus if you send it to Sierra; however, Papyrus makes decisions about what to work on, and the info needs to get to Papyrus in order to make a decision. On the joystick problems; we've got a pretty good snapshot of things now, I think, though we will still need to locate machines which duplicate the problems we've heard of. Here are the joystick problems I've heard about: - Jerking to the right, with any CPU (worse with modem or Kali connection active). - Cyrix or other non-Pentium CPU, pedals going to opposite end of callibration scale when you press pedals to full range. If anyone has seen any other joystick problem, please send me email describing it. Thanks. Charlie Heath / Papyrus

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>Don't bother with Papyrus I sent my findings to SIERRA .Post on their >message board and to their e-mail . that's www.sierra.com They might >have more leverage with papy and push for a fix. I would not send >anything to papy after they did not even check this patch after it was >done. This is obvious because they did not see the reverse race dates. >My feeling is they contracted this patch out and passed it along when >they got it, without ANY playtesting. This lurching is happening to a >lot of users and not everybody reports this > Lets let Sierra know and maybe they can get rid of the idiots at >Papy that had a hand in this.

Are you not the same Raaven who has posted to this group ***ing about Sierra in the past? Hope that fence post you are on doesnt leave a mark. As for the patch.... Great job!!!!! After all the ***ing going on here, we got the one thing we all wanted ...The save game feature... The fixes for the AI pitting problems etc.... Keep up the good job, cant wait for the next UPGRADE!

<snip> : > Lets let Sierra know and maybe they can get rid of the idiots at : >Papy that had a hand in this. : I did a pretty good chunk of the engineering for the patch. We also did : fairly extensive testing at Papyrus, but unfortunately we didn't catch : everything; sorry about that. All of the work was done "in house", at : Papyrus. <snip> Classy Charlie, real classy...Chuck