NASCAR 2003 Oddity...

My Direct 3D doesn't work! First, my system specs: AMD Duron 900 512MB PC133 SDRAM Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 (latest drivers) BFG GeForce FX 5500 (61.12 drivers - please, no jokes about how s****y this card is!) Anyway, whenever I try to run in Direct 3D, the game starts running fine, but within a lap or two, the graphics become completely distorted and unviewable. OpenGL is the only way I can run this game! Any suggestions (short of replacing the vid card, which isn't an option for me right now) would be appreciated! TIA, Bob

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>My Direct 3D doesn't work! > > >First, my system specs: > >AMD Duron 900 >512MB PC133 SDRAM >Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 (latest drivers) >BFG GeForce FX 5500 (61.12 drivers - please, no jokes about how s****y >this card is!)

Try an older revision of the drivers, maybe? Is the card running hot, perhaps? That might explain why it starts off fine, then screws up... Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

> > Try an older revision of the drivers, maybe? Is the card running hot, perhaps? > That might explain why it starts off fine, then screws up... > > Eldred > Well, Eldred, I've tried older drivers, including the 56.72 WHQL's, and still have the same problem. I don't know whether the card's running hot or not. Didn't NVIDIA's drivers used to have a panel where it showed the temp of the card? I don't have that tab anymore. So, other than a full R&R (Reformat & Reinstall), any suggestions? Bob

Open the case, with the computer on, and put your hand close to the heatsink on the video card. If it seems like it would burn you hand if you actually touched it then it's too hot! If that is indeed the case then think about mounting a fan on the heatsink (if one isn't already there, or got a slot fan to blow out the excess heat. Wag "Robert Nielsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Try an older revision of the drivers, maybe? Is the card running hot, perhaps? > That might explain why it starts off fine, then screws up... > > Eldred > Well, Eldred, I've tried older drivers, including the 56.72 WHQL's, and still have the same problem. I don't know whether the card's running hot or not. Didn't NVIDIA's drivers used to have a panel where it showed the temp of the card? I don't have that tab anymore. So, other than a full R&R (Reformat & Reinstall), any suggestions? Bob

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> My Direct 3D doesn't work! > > > First, my system specs: > > AMD Duron 900 > 512MB PC133 SDRAM > Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 (latest drivers) > BFG GeForce FX 5500 (61.12 drivers - please, no jokes about how s****y > this card is!) > > Anyway, whenever I try to run in Direct 3D, the game starts running > fine, but within a lap or two, the graphics become completely distorted > and unviewable. OpenGL is the only way I can run this game! Any > suggestions (short of replacing the vid card, which isn't an option for > me right now) would be appreciated! > > TIA, > > Bob

OpenGL is the best and fastest way to run it with an Nvidia Card anyway. bluestringer

>Well, Eldred, I've tried older drivers, including the 56.72 WHQL's, and >still have the same problem. I don't know whether the card's running >hot or not. Didn't NVIDIA's drivers used to have a panel where it >showed the temp of the card? I don't have that tab anymore. >I'm running 53.04 drivers. I've never seen a info panel with temp, but I have a Ti4600. >So, other than a full R&R (Reformat & Reinstall), any suggestions? >No...sorry. Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

> >OpenGL is the best and fastest way to run it with an Nvidia Card anyway Never been able to run it on mine... Well - it runs, but it runs MUCH slower. Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > >OpenGL is the best and fastest way to run it with an Nvidia Card anyway > > Never been able to run it on mine... Well - it runs, but it runs MUCHslower. > > Eldred Just the opposite here. Runs much slower and looks horrible in D3D. bluestringer

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > >OpenGL is the best and fastest way to run it with an Nvidia Card anyway > > Never been able to run it on mine... Well - it runs, but it runs MUCHslower. >Eldred you are the 1st person I have ever heard say you can't run OpenGL on your nVidia card, all the GPLer's, in fact pretty much any game that has OpenGL as an alternative to D3d says that OpenGL is quite an improvement performance wise on nVidia cards.

Hmmm.. does it crash when doing any other graphic intense things? If you try to run some huge graphic stuff for a long time and it crashes too.. then I would check your video card heatsink/fan. See if the fan is working properly, maybe take it out and give it a nice cleaning. Also make sure that the heatsink is properly attached. -- Mike Beauchamp http://www.therevox.com - custom electro-theremins and stuff. http://www.mikebeauchamp.com - mike's personal site. "Robert Nielsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > My Direct 3D doesn't work! > > > First, my system specs: > > AMD Duron 900 > 512MB PC133 SDRAM > Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 (latest drivers) > BFG GeForce FX 5500 (61.12 drivers - please, no jokes about how s****y > this card is!) > > Anyway, whenever I try to run in Direct 3D, the game starts running > fine, but within a lap or two, the graphics become completely distorted > and unviewable. OpenGL is the only way I can run this game! Any > suggestions (short of replacing the vid card, which isn't an option for > me right now) would be appreciated! > > TIA, > > Bob

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> My Direct 3D doesn't work! > > > First, my system specs: > > AMD Duron 900 > 512MB PC133 SDRAM > Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 (latest drivers) > BFG GeForce FX 5500 (61.12 drivers - please, no jokes about how s****y > this card is!) > > Anyway, whenever I try to run in Direct 3D, the game starts running > fine, but within a lap or two, the graphics become completely distorted > and unviewable. OpenGL is the only way I can run this game! Any > suggestions (short of replacing the vid card, which isn't an option for > me right now) would be appreciated! > > TIA, > > Bob

This is just a wild guess, but for your card, maybe older drivers like 28.xx or 30.xx are the better choice? I had that card two years ago and it almost worked better in OpenGL than in D3D btw, so if D3D doesn't work, it's not much of a loss in N2k3. D3D looked a little nicer but OpenGL had somewhat higher fps. Achim

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>"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> > >> >OpenGL is the best and fastest way to run it with an Nvidia Card anyway >> >> Never been able to run it on mine... Well - it runs, but it runs MUCH >slower. >> >Eldred you are the 1st person I have ever heard say you can't run OpenGL on >your nVidia card, all the GPLer's, in fact pretty much any game that has >OpenGL as an alternative to D3d says that OpenGL is quite an improvement >performance wise on nVidia cards.

I get the same results in GPL or N2k3. In GPL, it's absolutely unplayable in OGL(3-7 fps). I can't remember exactly how much it dropped in N2k3, but it's unacceptable. It would appear that I'm the *only* person experiencing this. Not sure why - a fresh install of windows yielded the same results. I guess I'm just lucky... :-( Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

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> This is just a wild guess, but for your card, maybe older drivers like > 28.xx or 30.xx are the better choice? > > I had that card two years ago and it almost worked better in OpenGL than > in D3D btw, so if D3D doesn't work, it's not much of a loss in N2k3. D3D > looked a little nicer but OpenGL had somewhat higher fps. > > Achim >

Achim, You had a 5500 two years ago? I thought the 5500 was a newer card. Bob

"Robert Nielsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > This is just a wild guess, but for your card, maybe older drivers like > > 28.xx or 30.xx are the better choice? > > > > I had that card two years ago and it almost worked better in OpenGL than > > in D3D btw, so if D3D doesn't work, it's not much of a loss in N2k3. D3D > > looked a little nicer but OpenGL had somewhat higher fps. > > > > Achim > > > > > Achim, > > You had a 5500 two years ago? I thought the 5500 was a newer card. > > Bob

I think it is too. He must be thinking about a Voodoo 5 5500

I get glitchs with some tracks in OGL with my ancient GF3 Ti200. No probs with D3D. "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GfSvc.29696$[email hidden]...

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> > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > >OpenGL is the best and fastest way to run it with an Nvidia Card anyway > > > > Never been able to run it on mine... Well - it runs, but it runs MUCH > slower. > > > Eldred you are the 1st person I have ever heard say you can't run OpenGL

on > your nVidia card, all the GPLer's, in fact pretty much any game that has > OpenGL as an alternative to D3d says that OpenGL is quite an improvement > performance wise on nVidia cards. > >

Robert Nielsen wrote: > Achim, > > You had a 5500 two years ago? I thought the 5500 was a newer card. Argh, for some reason I'd thought the guy has a 4600... Achim