Cockpit view in F1 for 3dfx ? Serious Oversight!!

I understand that there is no***pit view in the upcoming game F1 by psygnosis as in GP2. This could be a major oversight.. Please enquire as I would like a reply.

writes If it is like the Playstation version, the closest thing is a view from just above the airbox, like the actual camera angle in F1. However, unsurprisingly, it is difficult to drive the car using this view, particularly as I was using the Playstation joypad :) -- Dave Bowers

Yeah, I was real bummed to hear this as well. Andy Andy WARNING: MY E-MAIL ADDRESS HAS BEEN ALTERED TO PREVENT UNWANTED JUNK MAIL! REMOVE ASTERISK FROM THE END OF ADDRESS TO REPLY BY E-MAIL.

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>> >I understand that there is no***pit view in the upcoming game F1 by >> >psygnosis as in GP2. >> >This could be a major oversight.. >> Yeah, I was real bummed to hear this as well. >> Andy >Sarah from Bizarre Creations said that although they could have >easily added a***pit, the game belonged to Psygnosis and they >didn't want one. It isn't a coding issue. >I may still have a go at patching one in myself >Rob

What do you mean patching one?? A***pit view needs miror...

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>> >I understand that there is no***pit view in the upcoming game F1 by >> >psygnosis as in GP2. >> >This could be a major oversight.. >> Yeah, I was real bummed to hear this as well. >> Andy >Sarah from Bizarre Creations said that although they could have >easily added a***pit, the game belonged to Psygnosis and they >didn't want one. It isn't a coding issue.

Even Virtua Racing had the choice for a***pit view. Psygnosis have made a strange decision. (quite possibly an expensive one too)

Sarah from Bizarre Creations said that although they could have No***pit view, this is quite bizarre. How can it possibly be taken seriously as a racing sim with no***pit, dead before it's released. MarkH

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>>> >I understand that there is no***pit view in the upcoming game F1 by >>> >psygnosis as in GP2. >>> >This could be a major oversight.. >>> Yeah, I was real bummed to hear this as well. >>> Andy >>Sarah from Bizarre Creations said that although they could have >>easily added a***pit, the game belonged to Psygnosis and they >>didn't want one. It isn't a coding issue. >>I may still have a go at patching one in myself >>Rob >What do you mean patching one?? A***pit view needs miror...

You don't get any mirrors anyway do you ?? All I would try and do is a) Raise the height of the default 'front' views, ie nose-cone view to match that of a 'cockpit view' b) When this view is selected, load a 2d***pit overlay into the 3dfx frame buffers c) Set the z-buffer mode so as not to overwrite the***pit d) Find where they clear the frame-buffer and clear it without overwriting the***pit. I would not a) add mirrors (eeek) b) Add correct dials/lights/guages etc etc Rob

>Sarah from Bizarre Creations said that although they could have >easily added a***pit, the game belonged to Psygnosis and they >didn't want one. It isn't a coding issue. >I may still have a go at patching one in myself Yes, read that as well. I was just caught off guard when I heard all this. Somewhere along the line I thought this was going to be more of a sim. (I didn't know it was on the Playstation first) I have _no_ clue where I got the idea of it being a sim though..<G> Anyway, if you have any luck with a***pit please let me know. ;-) Andy WARNING: MY E-MAIL ADDRESS HAS BEEN ALTERED TO PREVENT UNWANTED JUNK MAIL! REMOVE ASTERISK FROM THE END OF ADDRESS TO REPLY BY E-MAIL.

No***pit view, this is quite bizarre. How can it possibly be taken seriously as a racing sim with no***pit, dead before it's released. MarkH << Absolutely right. I couldn't be bothered even taking a look at it knowing this about it, let alone buying a copy. If fact if someone offered me a "free" copy I'd tell them not to bother. As you say, how can it possibly be taken seriously as a racing sim without this view. Phillip McNelley

Philip, I expected a slightly more open attitude from your good self! It would be a shame if you didn't look at it because it has the most gorgeous version of Adelaide you've ever seen. Trees overhanging the track, all the houses and scenery at 30fps - well worth it IMO. People who say the game doesn't have a "cockpit view" actually mean that the game doesn't have dials and gauges - it DOES have a view from the same position as the***pit. I drove the car in this way last time I tested this and didn't find any problem. My only gripes with the game really would be the setup which is oversimplified and the AI which are a bit predictable and seem to do their own thing without enough reaction to what you are doing - the driving model is fine and the audio/visuals are great. I would say that it's less of a sim than our staple diet until now (GP2/ICR2/N2) but more of a sim than Monster Truck Madness - a game I enjoy immensely. Give it your support, you will thank me :) Cheers! John