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Grand Prix Legends: which circuits?

5 posts by 4 people · 18 Apr 1997 - 23 Apr 1997

H.E. Boer 18 Apr 1997#363405
Hi there! I have a couple of questions regarding this "dream come true" simulator: 1. Which circuits were raced on in the 1967 season and which circuits are in the sim. I can imagine that the famous Nordschleife that was (and still is!) more than 22 kilometers long, is too long to make it into this sim. Even Spa-Franchorchamps was 14 kilometers long back then. 2. How was (is?) the research done? In 1967 there were no onboard-camera's, no computer-data, no live TV coverages and a lot of the tracks have changed considerably since then. In other words: how real are the tracks, scenery, grip levels, etc. For now, Cheers, Harald
Alan He 19 Apr 1997#363499
Quoted text (9 lines)>>Hi there! I have a couple of questions regarding this "dream come true" >>simulator: >>1. Which circuits were raced on in the 1967 season and which circuits are >>in the sim. >>I can imagine that the famous Nordschleife that was (and still is!) more >>than 22 kilometers long, is too long to make it into this sim. Even >>Spa-Franchorchamps was >>14 kilometers long back then.
The list of tracks is on my site (see my sig for the URL). Papy mention that the sim will include 11 tracks, and '67 had an 11 track season, including Spa and the Nordschleife. I too am wondering how they will cram them in... They are apparently watching the movie "Grand Prix" for a lot of the data. However, there are no shots of a lot of the circuits in the movie. The only ones that feature heavily are Monaco, Monza, and Spa, and there are no shots at all of Silverstone, Mosport, Watkins Glen, or the Nordschlieffe. However, there is plenty of stock footage (including in-car) of these tracks around, and in the case of the Nordschleiffe they could just go out and drive it to pick up the data as it exists more or less identically today as it was in the 60s. The same is true of Spa as the old track was mainly on public roads Alan Head Screamer 2 homepages: http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/games.htm ----------------------------------------- Grand Prix Legends (from Papyrus) page http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/gpl/gpl.htm __________________________________________
B 20 Apr 1997#363598
Quoted text (18 lines)>They are apparently watching the movie "Grand Prix" for a lot of the >data. However, there are no shots of a lot of the circuits in the >movie. The only ones that feature heavily are Monaco, Monza, and Spa, >and there are no shots at all of Silverstone, Mosport, Watkins Glen, >or the Nordschlieffe. However, there is plenty of stock footage >(including in-car) of these tracks around, and in the case of the >Nordschleiffe they could just go out and drive it to pick up the data >as it exists more or less identically today as it was in the 60s. The >same is true of Spa as the old track was mainly on public roads >Alan Head >Screamer 2 homepages: >http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/games.htm >----------------------------------------- >Grand Prix Legends (from Papyrus) page >http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/gpl/gpl.htm >__________________________________________
And I wonder? There are a lot of those drivers still out there that I bet would love to share their memories of how they drove those circuits! Has anyone talked to Sir Jack Brabham? How 'bout Dan 'AAR' Gurney? the treasure of those two minds alone would fill volumes in technique of the times.
Alan He 20 Apr 1997#363599
<snip> I am sure they would look at getting some technical help in on this. Of course, Dan Gurney and Sir Jack are still quite involved in racing - Brabham took part in one of the support races at the Long Beach Indy (sorry C.A.R.T.) race last weekend, so they should be that difficult to persuade. Alan Head Screamer 2 homepages: http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/games.htm ----------------------------------------- Grand Prix Legends (from Papyrus) page http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/gpl/gpl.htm __________________________________________
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC4FF7.C0D481C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Go to any half-decent motoring bookshop and there are dozens of books relating driver's experiences on these older circuits. It's the same with the question "How can Papyrus accurately map these old circuits?".........there's plenty of video footage out there!! -- Bruce. "Insanity is hereditary......parents inherit it from their children." (Anonymous parent) > <snip> > >__________________________________________ > >And I wonder? There are a lot of those drivers still out there that I > >bet would love to share their memories of how they drove those > >circuits! Has anyone talked to Sir Jack Brabham? How 'bout Dan 'AAR' > >Gurney? the treasure of those two minds alone would fill volumes in > >technique of the times. > I am sure they would look at getting some technical help in on this. > Of course, Dan Gurney and Sir Jack are still quite involved in racing > - Brabham took part in one of the support races at the Long Beach Indy > (sorry C.A.R.T.) race last weekend, so they should be that difficult > to persuade. > Alan Head > Screamer 2 homepages: > http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/games.htm > ----------------------------------------- > Grand Prix Legends (from Papyrus) page > http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/gpl/gpl.htm > __________________________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_01BC4FF7.C0D481C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><BODY bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><p><font size=3D2 = color=3D"#000080" face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Go to any half-decent motoring = bookshop and there are <i><u>dozens</u></i> of books relating driver's = experiences on these older circuits.<br><br>It's the same with the = question &quot;How &nbsp;can Papyrus accurately map these old = circuits?&quot;.........there's plenty of video footage out = there!!<br>-- <br>Bruce.<br>&quot;Insanity is hereditary......parents = inherit it from their children.&quot;<br>(Anonymous = parent)<br><br><br><br><font color=3D"#000000">Alan Head &lt;<font = color=3D"#000000">&gt; wrote in article &lt;<font = color=3D"#000000">&gt;...<br>&gt; On Sun, 20 Apr 1997 02:51:01 GMT, = &lt;snip&gt;<br>&gt; = &gt;__________________________________________<br>&gt; &gt;And I wonder? = There are a lot of those drivers still out there that I<br>&gt; &gt;bet = would love to share their memories of how they drove those<br>&gt; = &gt;circuits! Has anyone talked to Sir Jack Brabham? How 'bout Dan = 'AAR'<br>&gt; &gt;Gurney? the treasure of those two minds alone would = fill volumes in<br>&gt; &gt;technique of the times.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I = am sure they would look at getting some technical help in on = this.<br>&gt; Of course, Dan Gurney and Sir Jack are still quite = involved in racing<br>&gt; - Brabham took part in one of the support = races at the Long Beach Indy<br>&gt; (sorry C.A.R.T.) race last weekend, = so they should be that difficult<br>&gt; to persuade.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; = Alan Head<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Screamer 2 homepages: <br>&gt; <font = color=3D"#0000FF"><u>http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/games.htm</u><font = color=3D"#000000"><br>&gt; = -----------------------------------------<br>&gt; Grand Prix Legends = (from Papyrus) page<br>&gt; <font = color=3D"#0000FF"><u>http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/gpl/gpl.htm</u><font = color=3D"#000000"><br>&gt; = __________________________________________<br>&gt; </p> </font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></f= ont></font></body></html> ------=_NextPart_000_01BC4FF7.C0D481C0--

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