Forget the patch

After nearly five months of waiting for a patch for N2, I ve noticed a couple of things. First of all, the utilities on the net (like those at the pits) are improving the game. Second these utilities on the 'net are alot better than anything put out by Sierra. I'm guessing that in a coulple more months people will develop the fixes we want. (save game, spotter fix, etc...) So forget Sierra. Its amazing what is being done to enhance the game by those who care. -Pat

Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:34:21 +0100 Message-ID: After nearly five months of waiting for a patch for N2, I ve noticed a couple of things. First of all, the utilities on the net (like those at the pits) are improving the game. Second these utilities on the 'net are alot better than anything put out by Sierra. I'm guessing that in a coulple more months people will develop the fixes we want. (save game, spotter fix, etc...) So forget Sierra. Its amazing what is being done to enhance the game by those who care. -Pat < I agree with you 100%................. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- Jason Nichols Commissioner SportSim Football League http://members.aol.com/jn141414/ssfl.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------

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>Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:34:21 +0100 Message-ID: >After nearly five months of waiting for a patch for N2, I ve noticed a >couple of things. First of all, the utilities on the net (like those at >the pits) are improving the game. Second these utilities on the 'net are >alot better than anything put out by Sierra. I'm guessing that in a >coulple more months people will develop the fixes we want. (save game, >spotter fix, etc...) So forget Sierra. Its amazing what is being done to >enhance the game by those who care. -Pat <

Look guys, the little utilities that we write are trivial compared to the effort it would take to add a Save Game or any of the other major fixes you want. The amusing thing is that none of the whining around here is going to have any effect on when the patch is released. If you take everyone who ever posted on RAS, it is stil a tiny blip in the stats compared to the number of copies of NASCAR 2 that have been sold so far. It's also funny to read all the stories about how Sierra has ruined Papyrus and forced them to ship NASCAR 2 early. As has been pointed out here several times, that decision was left in the hands of Papyrus management. And of course, the money-grubbing theory: All they're after is your money. I've got news for you: Money is what paid for the development of NASCAR 2, and the money you paid for N2 will fund the development of NASCAR 3. If they had held up NASCAR 2 until it had all the features that everyone has demanded, they'd simply be out of business and you'd have no NASCAR at all. I don't know why Papyrus management sold out to Sierra, but as a small business owner myself, I can guess. They saw the future of ***, and realized that they didn't have the funding and the distribution to compete against EA, Microprose, Sony and a host of other major companies. So they aligned themselves with one of the few big game companies that didn't already have a racing title. It's even possible that NASCAR told them that in order to get the NROS contract, they needed major backing. Oh well, 'nuff said. You can all start whining again. Dave Sparks IWCCCARS Project: [link lost in import] Late Night League: http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html Hawaii Handle: davids

Yes, and how much of the original management was left? You are correct though, no matter how much ***ing we do, it isn't going to get the patch any sooner. Andy WARNING: MY E-MAIL ADDRESS HAS BEEN ALTERED TO PREVENT UNWANTED JUNK MAIL! REMOVE ASTERISK FROM THE END OF ADDRESS TO REPLY BY E-MAIL.

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> >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:34:21 +0100 Message-ID: > >After nearly five months of waiting for a patch for N2, I ve noticed a > >couple of things. First of all, the utilities on the net (like those at > >the pits) are improving the game. Second these utilities on the 'net are > >alot better than anything put out by Sierra. I'm guessing that in a > >coulple more months people will develop the fixes we want. (save game, > >spotter fix, etc...) So forget Sierra. Its amazing what is being done to > >enhance the game by those who care. -Pat < > Look guys, the little utilities that we write are trivial compared to the > effort it would take to add a Save Game or any of the other major fixes you > want.

If so trivial then why doesn't Papy have it's web site set up with some of these trivial utilities. Alot of Papy promotion is being lost by no web site support. ( What's really amusing is listening to you Papy wanna-bees consisting defending Papy............and why? I don't think Papy is losing any sleep over us complaining about a patch.

>>It's also funny to read all the stories about how Sierra has ruined Papyrus >>and forced them to ship NASCAR 2 early. As has been pointed out here >>several times, that decision was left in the hands of Papyrus management. >Yes, and how much of the original management was left? Um, all of it. ---Jim Sokoloff

> thank you for the voice of reason....you would think the flaming would > get boring after while... > TrenT To whoever started this thread, I can't forget it; I just downloaded it. -- Ed "A friend of mine suggested I try America Online, I said 'But I already have a computer...'"

thank you for the voice of reason....you would think the flaming would get boring after while... TrenT