imho n1 is better than n2

no mouse to contend with more realistic play (car dynamics) save game feature displays larger view of cars and tracks n2 tires look like whitewalls some pavements are offwhite color when at real track they are dark gray or black only improvement in N2 is improved graphics which is offset by smaller screen view Too much horsepower is required to run the game Disagreements with supporting statements are welcome. Immature insults (not)

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> no mouse to contend with > more realistic play (car dynamics) > save game feature > displays larger view of cars and tracks > n2 tires look like whitewalls > some pavements are offwhite color when at real track they are dark gray or > black > only improvement in N2 is improved graphics which is offset by smaller > screen view > Too much horsepower is required to run the game > Disagreements with supporting statements are welcome. > Immature insults (not)

Buy a Rendition video card and all your worries will go away. I don't like the new menus either, the worst thing is the tiny arrow buttons. I also feel that setup options that were removed should have been replaced with new "Nascar legal" options. That would have required reworking the physics model though. DLB

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>no mouse to contend with >more realistic play (car dynamics) >save game feature >displays larger view of cars and tracks >n2 tires look like whitewalls >some pavements are offwhite color when at real track they are dark gray or >black >only improvement in N2 is improved graphics which is offset by smaller >screen view >Too much horsepower is required to run the game >Disagreements with supporting statements are welcome. >Immature insults (not)

I'm afraid I have to agree on this one. N2 is not necessarily bad, but I just find N1 more realistic. The graphics in N2 are incredible (I couldn't keep my eye off of Bobby Hamilton in my rear view, bravo Papyrus), and the spotter (sounded just like my friend, who is my self proclaimed crew cheif), but the game just doesn't have a realistic feel for me. I realise that it's a sim and can't be 100%, but there were some things that I noted that seemed to be overcorrected from N1. But, I'm not going to ***, because I'm happy to have a NASCAR sim period. So, for now, I'm going to stick with N1 for my *** racing, and tinker with N2. "Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong"-Dennis Miller Brandon

N2 is a great sim, but the sound in N1 is much, much better imo Phil -- "Don't look back - they may be gaining on you !!" ************************************************** http://www.magna.com.au/~mohair/

The chat mode is better in N1 but the AI cars are much more aggrisive in N2 and I like that. Bartman >snip >> only improvement in N2 is improved graphics which is offset by smaller >> screen view

says... If Bobby Hamilton was bothering you, just switch to Earnhardt's car and punt him off the track!

Have you tried going into the sound.DAT file and modifing the N2 sounds? --

Nope I disagree completely. (Well, maybe I'll give you the save games option.) Beyond that I thing Nascar2 blow Nascar1 away in every way. -- Nigel of Lakewood Motorsports Nascar Coruba & Coke Chevy Hamilton New Zealand

: no mouse to contend with : : more realistic play (car dynamics) Wahhhh, what computer nowadays doesn't have a mouse? And the N2 physics model is more realistic than N1. : : save game feature True, but it is coming... : : displays larger view of cars and tracks : n2 is more realistic... : n2 tires look like whitewalls : BULL! The n2 tires look about 3 times as realistic. : some pavements are offwhite color when at real track they are dark gray or : black : Such as? : only improvement in N2 is improved graphics which is offset by smaller : screen view : Not to mention the spotter, the new improved interfaces, the upcoming NROS, network support, car sets, better paintkit, wheel spin, etc. : Too much horsepower is required to run the game Not with a $150 Rendition board. : : Disagreements with supporting statements are welcome. : I pretty much disagree with all of your points, you are more than welcome to remain in the past and play by yourself, but for the rest of us, we will enjoy the great progress. : Immature insults (not) : : : : : : :

Oh, I should have looked at the address, it would have saved me the time that I took to respond to this. : no mouse to contend with : : more realistic play (car dynamics) : : save game feature : : displays larger view of cars and tracks : : n2 tires look like whitewalls : : some pavements are offwhite color when at real track they are dark gray or : black : : only improvement in N2 is improved graphics which is offset by smaller : screen view : : Too much horsepower is required to run the game : : Disagreements with supporting statements are welcome. : : Immature insults (not) : : : : : : :

> Have you tried going into the sound.DAT file and modifing the N2 sounds? To what? I don't have a WC car in my living room to record. True, another gut in the shop is working on a Taurus with an exhaust leak that sound pretty close, but I'm not going to take my computer to work to record car sounds. Hmm, a Cobra with Flowmasters would be pretty cool... -- Ed "A friend of mine suggested I try America Online, I said 'But I already have a computer...'"

>To what? I don't have a WC car in my living room to record. >True, another gut in the shop is working on a Taurus with an exhaust >leak that sound pretty close, but I'm not going to take my computer to >work to record car sounds. That would definitely affirm the computer geek stereotype, huh? Heh. As sweet as they sound, its way too smooth, I think. You need a ratty sound until about 4,000 RPM's. I agree that N1 captured that MUCH better. I was amazed when I first played it, and heard that sound. --

With a simple WAV file editor in Windows can change the tone of the V8 engines in Nascar2. I change the AI cars and they have a much deeper rumble now. I also change the tire squeal to a deeper toned howl. -- Nigel of Lakewood Motorsports Nascar Coruba & Coke Chevy Hamilton New Zealand