Engine failure in Nascar2

Can anybody tell me weather the engine blows based on a random selection by the program (your numbers up buddy) or due to engine abuse (over-reving) over a period of time. Do we have control over our engine failure by making sure the engine doesn't over-rev. For instance if I never over-reved the engine would it give out. -- Nigel of Lakewood Motorsports Nascar Coruba & Coke Chevy Hamilton New Zealand

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> Can anybody tell me weather the engine blows based on a random > selection by the program (your numbers up buddy) or due to > engine abuse (over-reving) over a period of time. > Do we have control over our engine failure by making sure the > engine doesn't over-rev. > For instance if I never over-reved the engine would it give > out.

Nigel, If I understand correctly, the engine may expire on a random basis if you have selected "random breakdowns" in the race options screen. If "random breakdowns" is NOT enabled, the engine will only fail from abuse and that is a composite of how much you over-rev and the duration of the over-rev. Damage accumulates based on these factors until the engine expires. I believe damage is factored in around 8500 rpm, but significantly increases around 8800-9000. 9500+ is obviously engine suicide. I'd like to see partial damage to the engine included - like losing one cylinder due to valve train problems, etc. Be a nice excercise in professional patience to finish on seven cylinders. David T.

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> > Can anybody tell me weather the engine blows based on a random > > selection by the program (your numbers up buddy) or due to > > engine abuse (over-reving) over a period of time. > > Do we have control over our engine failure by making sure the > > engine doesn't over-rev. > > For instance if I never over-reved the engine would it give > > out. > Nigel, > If I understand correctly, the engine may expire on a random basis if > you have selected "random breakdowns" in the race options screen. > If "random breakdowns" is NOT enabled, the engine will only fail from > abuse and that is a composite of how much you over-rev and the duration > of the over-rev. Damage accumulates based on these factors until the > engine expires. I believe damage is factored in around 8500 rpm, but > significantly increases around 8800-9000. 9500+ is obviously engine > suicide. > I'd like to see partial damage to the engine included - like losing one > cylinder due to valve train problems, etc. Be a nice excercise in > professional patience to finish on seven cylinders. > David T.

Good thought David. For me that would be seven cylinders, one fender and three wheels!<g> Terry

: Can anybody tell me weather the engine blows based on a random : selection by the program (your numbers up buddy) or due to : engine abuse (over-reving) over a period of time. : Do we have control over our engine failure by making sure the : engine doesn't over-rev. : For instance if I never over-reved the engine would it give : out. What I was wondering was that if the breakdowns are rondom, is there a way to edit the rondomability of them? I know a lot of you out there have raced a lot of 100% races. I have only raced two. One at Talladega and one at Martinsville. (By the way, I am really sick of martinsville and probably won't race there again. I do not like the "flip" trick because it has sent me into the wall a couple of times. I hope there will be patch for this error because I believe that it really affects the racing). Both of the 100% races I tried ended up as "something turned loose in the motor." Is that quote a sure sign of a random failure or do they say that sometimes due to engine over rev. I only had it red line maybe every other lap for about a second and the oil pressure showed no signs of impending doom. Is the oil pressure warning something that went out with the save game feature? Just curious. If anyone replys, thank you for your input and your time. Dan Sorek Michigan Tech University

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> > Can anybody tell me weather the engine blows based on a random > > selection by the program (your numbers up buddy) or due to > > engine abuse (over-reving) over a period of time. > > Do we have control over our engine failure by making sure the > > engine doesn't over-rev. > > For instance if I never over-reved the engine would it give > > out. > Nigel, > If I understand correctly, the engine may expire on a random basis if > you have selected "random breakdowns" in the race options screen. > If "random breakdowns" is NOT enabled, the engine will only fail from > abuse and that is a composite of how much you over-rev and the duration > of the over-rev. Damage accumulates based on these factors until the > engine expires. I believe damage is factored in around 8500 rpm, but > significantly increases around 8800-9000. 9500+ is obviously engine > suicide. > I'd like to see partial damage to the engine included - like losing one > cylinder due to valve train problems, etc. Be a nice excercise in > professional patience to finish on seven cylinders. > David T.

How about the 3-4 second lag when switching to your backup ignition? I would like to see some random breakdowns occur that can be fixed. In the only season I completed I had 3 engine break downs. How about a sputtering sound that if you come in within 3-4 laps, your pit crew will fix it and send you back out? Robert

I believe "something turned loose in the motor" is only due to random.

: >What I was wondering was that if the breakdowns are rondom, is there a : >way to edit the rondomability of them? I know a lot of you out there : >have raced a lot of 100% races. I have only raced two. One at Talladega : >and one at Martinsville. (By the way, I am really sick of martinsville : >and probably won't race there again. I do not like the "flip" trick : >because it has sent me into the wall a couple of times. I hope there : >will be patch for this error because I believe that it really affects the : >racing). Both of the 100% races I tried ended up as "something turned : >loose in the motor." Is that quote a sure sign of a random failure or do : >they say that sometimes due to engine over rev. I only had it red line : >maybe every other lap for about a second and the oil pressure showed no : >signs of impending doom. Is the oil pressure warning something that went : >out with the save game feature? Just curious. If anyone replys, thank : >you for your input and your time. : > : >Dan Sorek : >Michigan Tech University : I believe "something turned loose in the motor" is only due to : random. Well, recently I have had a few races end due to engine failure mainly because I was redlining almost the 1/4 of the straights.( Track doesn't matter). With this, the spotter told me to keep my eye on the gauges (HINT!). Laps later, the oil pressure fell and kept falling. I took it easy on the gas to keep from redlining and it worked for a bit. It did end in engine failure. All the times this happend to me, the oil pressure lowered and the spotter hinted. So this has been my experience with engine failure. I don't think its random. If your 4th gear redlines alot down the straights, be prepared to push your car back to the garage.