I bought Toca Race Driver 2

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"Diskhead" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > - -- Alanb

"Alan Bernardo" wrote... > -- Physics engine. Jan. =---

Jan Verschueren wrote:

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> "Alan Bernardo" wrote... > >>-- > > > Physics engine. > > Jan. > =--- > >

It's no GPL. KenB

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > - > Did you get Starforce copy protection, installed unknowingly, with the deal? http://tinyurl.com/2hktn -- MRSisson LOAD "GPL",8,1 RUN

On 6/10/2004 9:45 PM, Michael R Sisson wrote:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > >>- >> > > > Did you get Starforce copy protection, installed unknowingly, with the > deal? > > http://tinyurl.com/2hktn >

Will Toca run if Starforce is uninstalled? Dan

In article <TBnyc.41$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> On 6/10/2004 9:45 PM, Michael R Sisson wrote: > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > >>- > >> > > > > > > Did you get Starforce copy protection, installed unknowingly, with the > > deal? > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2hktn > > > > Will Toca run if Starforce is uninstalled? > > Dan >

It looks like it just reinstalls itself when you rerun Toca, from what I read in that thread. I have it (Starforce on my machine), but I don't have Toca 2/demo. I did have Colin McRae 2 demo and the Thief 3 demo. I'm not sure where it came from and I haven't tried to remove it, just yet. -- MRSisson LOAD "GPL",8,1 RUN

"Michael R Sisson" wrote... > > Did you get Starforce copy protection, installed unknowingly, with the > deal? > > http://tinyurl.com/2hktn Oh great! That stupid TOCA-RD2 demo silently installed three StarForce device drivers on my computer, and they can't be removed by un-installing the demo. Just what I need, more crap in the system that could cause problems. The Codemasters site claims to have a StarForce uninstall file to clean up the mess (files & registry), but I've been trying to D/L it for the past 1-1/2 hrs with no luck. Thanks for the link Michael, now I know I'll have to ask companies if they use StarForce _before_ purchasing any game or trying any demo. If they refuse to answer, like The Adventure Company (how's that for confidence in the copy protection scheme they bought?!) then they don't get my money. ...Klinn

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:45:43 GMT, Michael R Sisson <[email hidden]> wrote: >Did you get Starforce copy protection, installed unknowingly, with the >deal? > >http://tinyurl.com/2hktn Shit! I just checked and it is there. Thanks for the heads up.

"Michael R Sisson" wrote... > Did you get Starforce copy protection, installed unknowingly, > with the deal? > > http://tinyurl.com/2hktn Ye gods... that demo is so out of here, including it's infernal copy protection scheme!! -that just can't be legal... consumer rights organisations should jump on this practise (I'll be contacting mine in the morning). Thanks for the heads-up, Jan. =---

In article <B%qyc.4558$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > The Codemasters site claims to have a StarForce uninstall file to > clean up the mess (files & registry), but I've been trying to D/L it for the > past 1-1/2 hrs with no luck. > I downloaded it no problem just now. I've posted it to alt.binaries.simulators.autos (I think anyway; first time ever uploading a binary to a newsserver. It will be a good test for me to see how it goes anyhow ;) ) -- MRSisson LOAD "GPL",8,1 RUN

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:12:31 -0400, Klinn wrote: > > Oh great! That stupid TOCA-RD2 demo silently installed three StarForce > device drivers on my computer, and they can't be removed by un-installing Will this "Trojan" work on Loss98SE, too? I just checked my gaming PC which still runs win98se (and will forever as far as I'm concerned), and I cannot find those devices listed in the device manager? Pure luck or won't I even be able to see these entries under 98se? Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

In article <L8syc.153251$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> "Michael R Sisson" wrote... > > Did you get Starforce copy protection, installed unknowingly, > > with the deal? > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2hktn > > > Ye gods... that demo is so out of here, including it's infernal copy > protection scheme!! -that just can't be legal... consumer rights > organisations should jump on this practise (I'll be contacting mine in the > morning). > > Thanks for the heads-up, > > Jan. > =--- >

Here are a few more links to interesting reads about this : http://forums.avault.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t= 005286;p=1 http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/9888 http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=89479 -- MRSisson LOAD "GPL",8,1 RUN

Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote:

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> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:12:31 -0400, Klinn wrote: > >> >> Oh great! That stupid TOCA-RD2 demo silently installed three >> StarForce device drivers on my computer, and they can't be removed >> by un-installing > > Will this "Trojan" work on Loss98SE, too? I just checked my gaming PC > which still runs win98se (and will forever as far as I'm concerned), > and I cannot find those devices listed in the device manager? Pure > luck or won't I even be able to see these entries under 98se? > > Cheers, > > uwe

Draw98SE Registry : HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\prodrv06 HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\prohlp02 Only the Demo on this PC �eon

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>> Oh great! That stupid TOCA-RD2 demo silently installed three >> StarForce device drivers on my computer, and they can't be removed >> by un-installing > Will this "Trojan" work on Loss98SE, too? I just checked my *** PC > which still runs win98se (and will forever as far as I'm concerned), > and I cannot find those devices listed in the device manager? Pure > luck or won't I even be able to see these entries under 98se? > Cheers, > uwe

Draw98SE Registry : HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\prodrv06 HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\prohlp02 Only the Demo on this PC Deon

"Michael R Sisson" wrote ... > I downloaded it [StarForce uninstall file] no problem just now. I'veposted it to > alt.binaries.simulators.autos (I think anyway; first time ever uploading > a binary to a newsserver. It will be a good test for me to see how it > goes anyhow ;) ) Thanks very much for grabbing that and posting it. Your test worked fine, I was able to get the zip file and use the 'sfclean.exe' utility. The device drivers appear to be gone, but there is still some crap in the Registry. Under the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\ branch are three subkeys: LEGACY_PRODRV06, LEGACY_PROHLP02, and LEGACY_SFHLP01. This is with WinXP Pro. Dunno if these would cause any problems, or if it can be left as dead junk cluttering the Registry a bit - there's lots of that already I think. <grin> Thanks again for posting the utility! ...Klinn

Klinn wrote: > Thanks again for posting the utility! If i followed this discussion correctly, you might want to take a look here: http://www.codemasters.co.uk/downloads/displayfiles.php?showdetails=13989

"Raphael Barabas" wrote ... > If i followed this discussion correctly, you might want to take a lookhere: > http://www.codemasters.co.uk/downloads/displayfiles.php?showdetails=13989 Thanks, but on that page is a link to the actual zip file, and that link was the one that for some reason didn't work for me. YMMV. But thanks for the suggestion. ...Klinn