The Pits' Daytona Project

I am disspointed by Daytona Speedway's haggling of the freeware Daytona track made by the pits. They want to sue them for the track. But it ain't fair. If only they could give us copies with a different track name, then we can rename it with a secret utility. Also, I'd like to see a version for ICR2.

> I am disspointed by Daytona Speedway's haggling of the freeware Daytona > track made by the pits. They want to sue them for the track. But it > ain't fair. If only they could give us copies with a different track > name, then we can rename it with a secret utility. Also, I'd like to see > a version for ICR2. Sue them for what? They made no money of the track. It would be a hard case to stand up in court and I would be one of the first guys to defend "The Pits"!! Thats one site we need!! If anyone has a url to support "The Pits" in this matter please post it! -David Gary-

On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:44:17 -0500, David Gary

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>> I am disspointed by Daytona Speedway's haggling of the freeware Daytona >> track made by the pits. They want to sue them for the track. But it >> ain't fair. If only they could give us copies with a different track >> name, then we can rename it with a secret utility. Also, I'd like to see >> a version for ICR2. >Sue them for what? They made no money of the track. It would >be a hard case to stand up in court and I would be one of the first guys >to defend "The Pits"!! Thats one site we need!!

While I certainly wish we had Daytona available for N2, it is International Speedway Corp.'s (owner of Daytona International Speedway) decision to license it to whomever (including multiple companies, or no companies) they like. They've chosen to license it to Sega exclusively. The mere fact that they made no money on it doesn't prevent Daytona for suing for damages. If someone came and broke all the windows in my house or keyed my cars, and I could identify who it was, I could sue them for it, even though they didn't make any money on it. It's the same basic principles of law, except the property we are dealing with is intellectual property and not tangible, real or personal property. It doesn't make it less valuable, just a little less obvious what the "right" things are... ---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

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> On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:44:17 -0500, David Gary > >> I am disspointed by Daytona Speedway's haggling of the freeware Daytona > >> track made by the pits. They want to sue them for the track. But it > >> ain't fair. If only they could give us copies with a different track > >> name, then we can rename it with a secret utility. Also, I'd like to see > >> a version for ICR2. > >Sue them for what? They made no money of the track. It would > >be a hard case to stand up in court and I would be one of the first guys > >to defend "The Pits"!! Thats one site we need!! > While I certainly wish we had Daytona available for N2, it is > International Speedway Corp.'s (owner of Daytona International > Speedway) decision to license it to whomever (including multiple > companies, or no companies) they like. They've chosen to license it to > Sega exclusively. > The mere fact that they made no money on it doesn't prevent Daytona > for suing for damages. If someone came and broke all the windows in my > house or keyed my cars, and I could identify who it was, I could sue > them for it, even though they didn't make any money on it. It's the > same basic principles of law, except the property we are dealing with > is intellectual property and not tangible, real or personal property. > It doesn't make it less valuable, just a little less obvious what the > "right" things are... > ---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

Couldn't they just strip off all ID and anything that says "daytona" and just call it a daytona-like track? If there is nothing to id it as daytona in particular what could be there beef? Obi-Wan

Obi-Wan says... No. Some guy who called his daytona "USA Speedway" was haggled by Papyrus, but that was for a different reason. If Daytona caught him, I don't know. By the way, please give me a Daytona email adress. Christopher

I'd be happy for the Dayton, OH International Speedway.

Obi-Wan says... >Couldn't they just strip off all ID and anything that says "daytona" and >just call it a daytona-like track? If there is nothing to id it as >daytona in particular what could be there beef? No. Some guy who called his daytona "USA Speedway" was haggled by Papyrus, but that was for a different reason. If Daytona caught him, I don't know. By the way, please give me a Daytona email adress. Christopher Hey, I'm the guy that got haggled by papy for USA SPEEDWAY. They said that I could not post the entire DAT file. I was also contacted by Daytona about not releasing Dayotna. The new USA?v2.0 is almost done....if you want screenshots to to the NASCAR?Network's Message board and look for the post. I am placing 5 new screen shots tonight and in them will be Daytona and not USA?so everyone can see what you could have if you bombard Daytona with e-mail Go to The NASCAR?Network for the screen shots http://www.nascarnet.com Alex Santantonio