Microsof FF Wheel GAMEPORT Problem

Hello! I own the quite old but still nice Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback Wheel Gameport version. Sadly i use Windows XP and M$ is bnot supporting this hardware with software anymore. I can get the Wheel connected and working just fine but i have no force feedback. Sometimes like a miracle i have force feedback and then it disapears as soon i close the application. I tryed the Gameport of my motherboard and the gameport of my soundcard (hercules Gamesurround Fortissimo III 7.1). I played with the midi settings but nothing helped. FF ist not working 99.5% of the time wich is a shame. Please don't post: Get a USB version since i am not willing to do so. I payed a lot money for this device when it came out and it's in perfect condition. I just want to get the FF to work under Windows XP (PRO) I know this is a common problem and i've searched a lot but haven't found a solution so far. Thanks for your help in advance. P.S: Sorry for my poor english. It's my 2nd language.

I think there's a version 4 of the Sidewinder software that works with XP and gameport wheels, try a search of google, I believe it's not on M$'s web. Andi. -- Remove only one zero to reply. "Thoma Gabriel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cdCyc.63743$[email hidden]... > Hello! > > I own the quite old but still nice Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback Wheel > Gameport version. > Sadly i use Windows XP and M$ is bnot supporting this hardware with software > anymore. > I can get the Wheel connected and working just fine but i have no force > feedback. > > Sometimes like a miracle i have force feedback and then it disapears as soon > i close the application. > I tryed the Gameport of my motherboard and the gameport of my soundcard > (hercules Gamesurround Fortissimo III 7.1). I played with the midi settings > but nothing helped. > FF ist not working 99.5% of the time wich is a shame. > > Please don't post: Get a USB version since i am not willing to do so. > I payed a lot money for this device when it came out and it's in perfect > condition. I just want to get the FF to work under Windows XP (PRO) > > I know this is a common problem and i've searched a lot but haven't found a > solution so far. > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > P.S: Sorry for my poor english. It's my 2nd language. > >

That's exactly the problem. I can't use 4.0 Software. It only works with USB devices. An USB to Serial adapter wont work either. People have tried that. "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:MtDyc.14245$[email hidden]... > I think there's a version 4 of the Sidewinder software that works with XP > and gameport wheels, try a search of google, I believe it's not on M$'sweb.

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> > Andi. > > -- > Remove only one zero to reply. > "Thoma Gabriel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:cdCyc.63743$[email hidden]... > > Hello! > > > > I own the quite old but still nice Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback > Wheel > > Gameport version. > > Sadly i use Windows XP and M$ is bnot supporting this hardware with > software > > anymore. > > I can get the Wheel connected and working just fine but i have no force > > feedback. > > > > Sometimes like a miracle i have force feedback and then it disapears as > soon > > i close the application. > > I tryed the Gameport of my motherboard and the gameport of my soundcard > > (hercules Gamesurround Fortissimo III 7.1). I played with the midi > settings > > but nothing helped. > > FF ist not working 99.5% of the time wich is a shame. > > > > Please don't post: Get a USB version since i am not willing to do so. > > I payed a lot money for this device when it came out and it's in perfect > > condition. I just want to get the FF to work under Windows XP (PRO) > > > > I know this is a common problem and i've searched a lot but haven't

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> a > > solution so far. > > > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > > > P.S: Sorry for my poor english. It's my 2nd language. > > > > > >

Give this a try and see what happens .Before you boot up your PC unplug the power pack. Boot up Load the game. Enter the track, while sitting in the pit plug in the power pack. I have a USB verison of the wheel and when I do that the wheel seems to tighten up and feel like it did when I ran under win98. Downside is when the server resets the wheel does back to the weak FF feeling... You know the almost no FF feeling. The wheel feels very loose.. Well, give it a shot and see what happens. Its sad MS pushed this wheel under the rug. "Thoma Gabriel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cdCyc.63743$[email hidden]... > Hello! > > I own the quite old but still nice Microsoft Sidewinder Force FeedbackWheel > Gameport version. > Sadly i use Windows XP and M$ is bnot supporting this hardware withsoftware > anymore. > I can get the Wheel connected and working just fine but i have no force > feedback. > > Sometimes like a miracle i have force feedback and then it disapears assoon > i close the application. > I tryed the Gameport of my motherboard and the gameport of my soundcard > (hercules Gamesurround Fortissimo III 7.1). I played with the midisettings

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> but nothing helped. > FF ist not working 99.5% of the time wich is a shame. > > Please don't post: Get a USB version since i am not willing to do so. > I payed a lot money for this device when it came out and it's in perfect > condition. I just want to get the FF to work under Windows XP (PRO) > > I know this is a common problem and i've searched a lot but haven't found

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> solution so far. > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > P.S: Sorry for my poor english. It's my 2nd language. > >

Thanks for your help but it din't work. The problem is i have no weak FF i have no FF at all. The wheel just uses force to center itself. The plugging trick didn't get the FF activated. Sometimes it just does it itself. It's totally wierd. :( "Rob" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HlLyc.18483$[email hidden]...

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> Give this a try and see what happens > .Before you boot up your PC unplug the power pack. > Boot up > Load the game. Enter the track, while sitting in the pit plug in the power > pack. > > I have a USB verison of the wheel and when I do that the wheel seems to > tighten up and feel like it did when I ran under win98. Downside is when

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> server resets the wheel does back to the weak FF feeling... You know the > almost no FF feeling. The wheel feels very loose.. > > Well, give it a shot and see what happens. > Its sad MS pushed this wheel under the rug. > > > "Thoma Gabriel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:cdCyc.63743$[email hidden]... > > Hello! > > > > I own the quite old but still nice Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback > Wheel > > Gameport version. > > Sadly i use Windows XP and M$ is bnot supporting this hardware with > software > > anymore. > > I can get the Wheel connected and working just fine but i have no force > > feedback. > > > > Sometimes like a miracle i have force feedback and then it disapears as > soon > > i close the application. > > I tryed the Gameport of my motherboard and the gameport of my soundcard > > (hercules Gamesurround Fortissimo III 7.1). I played with the midi > settings > > but nothing helped. > > FF ist not working 99.5% of the time wich is a shame. > > > > Please don't post: Get a USB version since i am not willing to do so. > > I payed a lot money for this device when it came out and it's in perfect > > condition. I just want to get the FF to work under Windows XP (PRO) > > > > I know this is a common problem and i've searched a lot but haven't

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> a > > solution so far. > > > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > > > P.S: Sorry for my poor english. It's my 2nd language. > > > > > >

"Thoma Gabriel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cdCyc.63743$[email hidden]... > Hello! > > I own the quite old but still nice Microsoft Sidewinder Force FeedbackWheel > Gameport version. > Sadly i use Windows XP and M$ is bnot supporting this hardware withsoftware > anymore. > I can get the Wheel connected and working just fine but i have no force > feedback. > > Sometimes like a miracle i have force feedback and then it disapears assoon > i close the application. > I tryed the Gameport of my motherboard and the gameport of my soundcard > (hercules Gamesurround Fortissimo III 7.1). I played with the midisettings

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> but nothing helped. > FF ist not working 99.5% of the time wich is a shame. > > Please don't post: Get a USB version since i am not willing to do so. > I payed a lot money for this device when it came out and it's in perfect > condition. I just want to get the FF to work under Windows XP (PRO) > > I know this is a common problem and i've searched a lot but haven't found

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> solution so far. > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > P.S: Sorry for my poor english. It's my 2nd language. > >

Gameport version of the MSFF are not supported, you know that already, you have probably figured out by now that there is no reliable workaround. That leaves you with 2 choices..replace the wheel, or replace XP. That is pretty much what everyone else in your situation did when they tried upgrading to XP. I'm sure you also know that most parallel port scanners and many other 'legacy' devices are also not supported under XP anymore. If you're not willing to upgrade teh hardware to be compatible XP standards, don't use XP.

Yeah but as you most likely know Win 98 is more or less dead. I will install it for this particular game (Live for Speed) but i know that there soon wont be any graphics/other drivers for 98 anymore so switching back to 98 for gaming wont be a solution. For now i'll do that though. Microsoft sucks. "Biz" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:se0zc.11483$[email hidden]...

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> > "Thoma Gabriel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:cdCyc.63743$[email hidden]... > > Hello! > > > > I own the quite old but still nice Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback > Wheel > > Gameport version. > > Sadly i use Windows XP and M$ is bnot supporting this hardware with > software > > anymore. > > I can get the Wheel connected and working just fine but i have no force > > feedback. > > > > Sometimes like a miracle i have force feedback and then it disapears as > soon > > i close the application. > > I tryed the Gameport of my motherboard and the gameport of my soundcard > > (hercules Gamesurround Fortissimo III 7.1). I played with the midi > settings > > but nothing helped. > > FF ist not working 99.5% of the time wich is a shame. > > > > Please don't post: Get a USB version since i am not willing to do so. > > I payed a lot money for this device when it came out and it's in perfect > > condition. I just want to get the FF to work under Windows XP (PRO) > > > > I know this is a common problem and i've searched a lot but haven't

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> a > > solution so far. > > > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > > > P.S: Sorry for my poor english. It's my 2nd language. > > > > > > Gameport version of the MSFF are not supported, you know that already, you > have probably figured out by now that there is no reliable workaround. > That leaves you with 2 choices..replace the wheel, or replace XP. That is > pretty much what everyone else in your situation did when they tried > upgrading to XP. I'm sure you also know that most parallel port scanners > and many other 'legacy' devices are also not supported under XP anymore.

If > you're not willing to upgrade teh hardware to be compatible XP standards, > don't use XP. > >

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> Yeah but as you most likely know Win 98 is more or less dead. I will install > it for this particular game (Live for Speed) but i know that there soon wont > be any graphics/other drivers for 98 anymore so switching back to 98 for > gaming wont be a solution. > For now i'll do that though. > > Microsoft sucks.

Why not go with a dual partition? With a little bit of research on how to do it, you could get it done yourself. Though it's been a couple years since I've done it, I have Win95 (my 98 disc disappeared years ago) and XP on my machine. I don't use '95 at all, 'cause my Soundblaster 128 isn't supported, but I doubt you'll run into a problem like that with '98. Then it would just be a minor hassle to restart and boot up Win98. -Will

Yeah making a dualboot is no problem for me but i am pissed off and just don't want to do it. I want it to run in Win XP since that the System i use. "William Bradshaw" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[email hidden]... > Thoma Gabriel wrote: > > > Yeah but as you most likely know Win 98 is more or less dead. I willinstall > > it for this particular game (Live for Speed) but i know that there soonwont

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> > be any graphics/other drivers for 98 anymore so switching back to 98 for > > gaming wont be a solution. > > For now i'll do that though. > > > > Microsoft sucks. > > Why not go with a dual partition? With a little bit of research on how > to do it, you could get it done yourself. Though it's been a couple > years since I've done it, I have Win95 (my 98 disc disappeared years > ago) and XP on my machine. I don't use '95 at all, 'cause my > Soundblaster 128 isn't supported, but I doubt you'll run into a problem > like that with '98. > > Then it would just be a minor hassle to restart and boot up Win98. > > > -Will

I play live for speed with a MS FF Wheel with gameport on xp. I also have a sidewinder joystick. Could you possibly have a joystick connected or selected under controllers on LFS?, mine has controller 1 & 2 if I have both connected and select the wrong one then the wheel only gets centering and no ff.

I play live for speed with a MS FF Wheel with gameport on xp. I also have a sidewinder joystick. Could you possibly have a joystick connected or selected under controllers on LFS?, mine has controller 1 & 2 if I have both connected and select the wrong one then the wheel only gets centering and no ff.