Running out of gas on last lap!

I ran out of gas on the last lap of talladega, while on the lead lap. After getting towed in and a splash of gas I crossed over the stripe and finished behind all of the cars down a lap. (From 1st to 32nd) Is this the correct way of scoring or is it another bug????? Hell I would have pitted and finished 16th if I would have known.

To be honest, this sounds about right to me. Well now you know :-) -- Header address intentionaly scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

>I ran out of gas on the last lap of talladega, while on the lead lap. >After getting towed in and a splash of gas I crossed over the stripe and >finished behind all of the cars down a lap. (From 1st to 32nd) >Is this the correct way of scoring or is it another bug????? Had you seen the white flag while running at speed? If so,it sounds like a bug, but it's too early in the morning for me to completely wrap my mind around this problem. I can't come up with any explanation for it, though, so it sounds like a bug. ---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

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>>I ran out of gas on the last lap of talladega, while on the lead lap. >>After getting towed in and a splash of gas I crossed over the stripe and >>finished behind all of the cars down a lap. (From 1st to 32nd) >>Is this the correct way of scoring or is it another bug????? >Had you seen the white flag while running at speed? If so,it sounds >like a bug, but it's too early in the morning for me to completely >wrap my mind around this problem. I can't come up with any explanation >for it, though, so it sounds like a bug.

Jim, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you get credit for a lap under tow. So it's as if he never completed the final lap. Dave Sparks IWCCCARS Project: http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars Late Night League: http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html Hawaii Handle: davids

You are right Dave. You DO NOT get credit for a lap under tow. The car must cross the start/finish line under its own power...

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>>>I ran out of gas on the last lap of talladega, while on the lead lap. >>>After getting towed in and a splash of gas I crossed over the stripe and >>>finished behind all of the cars down a lap. (From 1st to 32nd) >>>Is this the correct way of scoring or is it another bug????? >>Had you seen the white flag while running at speed? If so,it sounds >>like a bug, but it's too early in the morning for me to completely >>wrap my mind around this problem. I can't come up with any explanation >>for it, though, so it sounds like a bug. >Jim, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you get credit for a lap >under tow. So it's as if he never completed the final lap. >Dave Sparks >IWCCCARS Project: http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars >Late Night League: http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html >Hawaii Handle: davids

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>Jim, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you get credit for a lap >under tow. So it's as if he never completed the final lap. You're right Dave. The same thing happened to Bill Elliott last year - Michigan I think. He ran out out gas and one of the Bodines gave him a push back to the line. He was only credited with the last lap he ran under his own power. Alan Rosenthal

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>>Jim, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you get credit for a lap >>under tow. So it's as if he never completed the final lap. >You're right Dave. The same thing happened to Bill Elliott last year - >Michigan I think. He ran out out gas and one of the Bodines gave him a >push back to the line. He was only credited with the last lap he ran under >his own power.

I didn't know that rule. (learn something everyday I suppose) Is that a Cup rule only? I'm pretty sure I saw two Busch cars being pushed across the line down at Daytona (Gargoyles 300) this year, and I believe they were scored as finishing on the lead lap, but I don't know for sure... ---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

This is the scenario: Driver A = the leader and takes the white flag to START the last lap. Driver B = same lap as A Driver C = same lap as A Driver D = 1 lap behind A Driver E = 1 lap behind A Driver A runs out of gas and coasts to a stop on the backstretch (what a shame). The finishing order would then be (if no other passing): Driver B = winner lead lap Driver C = 2nd lead lap Driver A = 3rd -1 lap Driver D = 4th -1 lap Driver E = 5th -1 lap

Ok, I'm curious about this. What if? I am on the last lap and on the lead lap. I run out of gas and stop on the back stretch, Get towed, get fuel and then cross the line under my own power. Do I then get credited for completing all of the laps? It wouldn't seem right if I did, especially if a lapped car passed me while I was being towed. Anybody know how Nascar the real series or Nascar the sim handles this situation? Member - Hawaii Ace League http://www.dithots.org/hal

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>Ok, I'm curious about this. What if? >I am on the last lap and on the lead lap. I run out of gas and stop on the >back stretch, Get towed, get fuel and then cross the line under my own >power. Do I then get credited for completing all of the laps? It wouldn't >seem right if I did, especially if a lapped car passed me while I was being >towed. Anybody know how Nascar the real series or Nascar the sim handles >this situation?

I don't believe you get credit for any lap that you don't complete fully under your own power. If I recall correctly, the 1995 BGN championship boiled down to the last race. David Green got caught up in a big wreck coming off of Turn 4, and his car was nearly demolished. But somehow he got it fired up and managed to limp it across the s/f line. That was just enough to give him the championship, it moved him up 5 or 6 positions in the race, because most of the other cars involved did not cross the stripe. Dave Sparks IWCCCARS Project: http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars Late Night League: http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html Hawaii Handle: davids

>I am on the last lap and on the lead lap. I run out of gas and stop on the >back stretch, Get towed, get fuel and then cross the line under my own >power. Do I then get credited for completing all of the laps? It wouldn't >seem right if I did, especially if a lapped car passed me while I was being >towed. It wouldn't matter (position wise) if a lapped car passed you (once) while you were being towed. (Suppose it's a 100 lap race, and you complete 99 (seeing the white flag), run out of gas and stop on the back stretch. While being towed, a lap car (which has completed 98 laps, and is on his way to complete 99) passes you. His race is now over (since he's seen the checkered) at 99 laps complete. He completed his 99th lap AFTER you did, so you're in front of him in the standings. The only question is whether you're in front of him with 99 laps complete, or with 100 laps complete. My guess is that the answer is you'd be creditted with 100 laps in the above scenario, but I don't actually know. Suppose that's a question for Papyrus to ask NASCAR, so we can get it right... I believe that currently if you are under tow when you cross the line, you don't get the lap; if you're not, you get the lap, but I haven't tested it myself. ---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus