N2 Patch Papyrus please answer

Does anyone know what will be fixed in the N2 patch? Also will there be any expansion packs or feature upgrades (sunglare, anti-alaising, double file restarts) for Nascar 2? -Pat

>Does anyone know what will be fixed in the N2 patch? Also will there be >any expansion packs or feature upgrades (sunglare, anti-alaising, double >file restarts) for Nascar 2? >-Pat I don't think there is a patch or will be one anytime soon. Thats the main reason for NOT giving a target date or listing the problems to be fixed. FACTS are FACTS. There is NO DATE (cause there is no schedule) There is no LIST of problems to be fixed or they would tell us.( There is no reason not to let us know what is being repaired) And there is NO answer from PAPYRUS cause were ( like a car out of fuel) being stalled. Prove me wrong. Show me a patch!!!!!! -----No more excuses.....

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> >Does anyone know what will be fixed in the N2 patch? Also will there be > >any expansion packs or feature upgrades (sunglare, anti-alaising, double > >file restarts) for Nascar 2? > >-Pat > I don't think there is a patch or will be one anytime soon. Thats the > main reason for NOT giving a target date or listing the problems to be > fixed. FACTS are FACTS. There is NO DATE (cause there is no schedule) > There is no LIST of problems to be fixed or they would tell us.( There > is no reason not to let us know what is being repaired) And there is > NO answer from PAPYRUS cause were ( like a car out of fuel) being > stalled. > Prove me wrong. Show me a patch!!!!!! -----No more excuses.....

I could have sworn I saw a post by one of the Papy guys a month ago that they were gonna fix the standing files so the off line leagues would be able to continue, a few AI problems at certain tracks, and a save game. But then again I could be wrong. Mick in Tampa -- Mike Schreiner http://pages.prodigy.com/CNSRL #3 = #8 in '97!!!!!!!!!!!!

The reason a date hasn't been given, is because Papyrus doesn't want to set a date only to miss it - and then have people (such as yourself) flame them to no end. They have indeed mentioned the problems to be addressed, and have also said that instead of two patches, that there will be one with the major eye-sores fixed. I would rather get most items fixed in one, than having to wait for the next... I don't understand why you think they're sitting on their collective butts...be patient, and the patches will get here when they get here. Best Regards, Marc Marc J. Nelson Sim Racing News - USA http://members.aol.com/simracing

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> > I don't think there is a patch or will be one anytime soon. Thats the > > main reason for NOT giving a target date or listing the problems to be > > fixed. FACTS are FACTS. There is NO DATE (cause there is no schedule) > > There is no LIST of problems to be fixed or they would tell us.( There > > is no reason not to let us know what is being repaired) And there is > > NO answer from PAPYRUS cause were ( like a car out of fuel) being > > stalled. > > Prove me wrong. Show me a patch!!!!!! -----No more excuses..... > The reason a date hasn't been given, is because Papyrus doesn't want to > set a date only to miss it - and then have people (such as yourself) flame > them to no end. They have indeed mentioned the problems to be addressed, > and have also said that instead of two patches, that there will be one > with > the major eye-sores fixed. I would rather get most items fixed in one, > than > having to wait for the next... > I don't understand why you think they're sitting on their collective > butts...be > patient, and the patches will get here when they get here. > Best Regards, > Marc > Marc J. Nelson > Sim Racing News - USA > http://members.aol.com/simracing

Yes...and they will call the patch NASCAR 3!!!!!!! And guess what? The PATCH will only cost $50 or so! Looks like Sierra has destroyed another fine company....too bad. Mr. B

I just spoke to Papyrus support last week and asked them about the save game fix. They said they have NO plans for an update. Speaking from experience (being in the software dev business), this is probably not the most popular stance to take but it's the safest. By that I mean we have quoted release dates and have missed them and had to suffer the user *** mob for non-delivery. Anyway, I can't say I agree with the policy (speaking as a user) but I can understand it (speaking as an employee of a dev house).

On Sat, 08 Mar 1997 12:20:00 -0800, "Edward L. Burke, III" >I just spoke to Papyrus support last week and asked them about the save >game fix. They said they have NO plans for an update. That's still the "official company line" and indeed is probably all the tech support people know. (Since they're now on the West Coast, 3300 miles west of my office instead of in the next room 300 inches from my office. :-) ) Yep; been there, done that. Seriously though, software is not a 100% predictable thing. And the unpredictability is almost all negative. (Very rarely do I say "That will take me a month" and then finish it in a day. Much more often I say "That will take a day" and then finish it in close to a month...) So we don't withhold release dates of patches to be coy, we do it because we don't want to give a mistaken impression to our users, only to miss that date. ---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

For the record I've talked with a programmer at Papy several times. His part of "The Patch" is done. He stated that most is well and that there have been some additions above the manual. Since he seems to be waiting he's looking into adding some more stufffff. There will be even another patch for NRO, with even some more fixes along with the code for NRO. There's a patch, when it's released is the ?. Q.B.M.