New Nascar 2 finding.

This won't be for everyone but here goes. If you have a multiplayer situation and you have more pc's than drivers or you like this so much you purposely use a pc just for this. Ok before I let it loose I've been dreaming about how cool it would be if you can have for example 4 humans racing and have another system be able to watch the race like on TV, with different camera angles and such. How neat that would be. Well yesterday I for whatever reason tried this out. And it does it already. You can actually watch the race realtime from the server and at the same time switch camera angles, cars and go back and forth from replay to realtime. You could have a group watch it like TV and have a moderator immediately tell who was really at fualt in that latest tangle, no more after the race fact. It really works well, I recommend full screen, but in that mode it does take some hp to move all the gfx real smooth. I noticed no performance loss with the racers which is most critical. In full screen you need to use the keystorkes for the replays, I found out that (I or Shift I) doesn't work like advertised, which is supposed to take you back and forward on incidents. Also there seems to be no keystroke for end of race or begginning of race. Like everything though there could be some add-ons for this awesome feature. Since you can only go back and forth to different cars and all the viewing is done manually. IT WOULD BE KILLER, if there was an auto view mode. This mode would keep a*** the leaders and pan the whole group every so often. Also it would randomly do inside car views and such cars. When a crash happens the auto mode would go to it immediatley and then replay it automatically as well. The funny thing is N2 is SO CLOSE to doing this it's all right now it's unbelievable, we could actually have 7 humans racing on IPX and have one setup as a TV viewing of it will all the t***s you get on ESPN less audio, which would be added I guess. Check it out if you haven't done so. I belive this feature is completely undocumented. I wonder if PAPY knows? Also in full screen mode there needs to be text added on who's car your viewing from. Also I would like to state the awesome effects you get with full screen and a partly cloudy day. Like the narrow angle roof shot, it makes gorgeous sky motions that are really neat. Also a while back a guy mentioned how dissapointed he was with N2's clouds he stated 1 style. Well I've at least seen 5 or 6 different patterns that are very very nice, he musta raced on constant 70 and sunny. Another thing I noticed yesterday is when the Server press a keystroke while racing F1 for example the remote cpu's cars blink off screan for a brief moment. Q.B.M.

This sounds interesting, but I wonder how thorough Papyrus will be with it. I personally would rather they put more work into adding various race formats, like multi-segment races with field reversals (Clash and Select), and adding double file restarts, etc., you know things that have to do with racing. David Martin

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> Ok before I let it loose I've been dreaming about how cool it would be if > you can have for example 4 humans racing and have another system be able > to watch the race like on TV, with different camera angles and such. How > neat that would be. >Well yesterday I for whatever reason tried this out. And it does it already. >You can actually watch the race realtime from the server and at the same >time switch camera angles, cars and go back and forth from replay to > realtime. You could have a group watch it like TV and have a moderator >immediately tell who was really at fualt in that latest tangle, no more after > the race fact. >It really works well, I recommend full screen, but in that mode it does >take some hp to move all the gfx real smooth. I noticed no performance >loss with the racers which is most critical. In full screen you need to use >the keystorkes for the replays, I found out that (I or Shift I) doesn't work >like advertised, which is supposed to take you back and forward on incidents. >Also there seems to be no keystroke for end of race or begginning of race. >Like everything though there could be some add-ons for this awesome >feature. Since you can only go back and forth to different cars and all the >viewing is done manually. IT WOULD BE KILLER, if there was an auto >view mode. This mode would keep a*** the leaders and pan the whole >group every so often. Also it would randomly do inside car views and such >cars. When a crash happens the auto mode would go to it immediatley and >then replay it automatically as well. >The funny thing is N2 is SO CLOSE to doing this it's all right now it's >unbelievable, we could actually have 7 humans racing on IPX and have one >setup as a TV viewing of it will all the t***s you get on ESPN less >audio, which would be added I guess. Check it out if you haven't done so. I >belive this feature is completely undocumented. I wonder if PAPY knows? >Also in full screen mode there needs to be text added on who's car your >viewing from.

Hee hee. Yes, PAPY knows ... we used to have in house multiplayer races where half the company would sit around watching the race drinking beer, and the other half was driving. Hard to tell who was having the most fun; driving with an audience made the racing even more competitive than it already was. The next/prev incident only notices when damage is involved; it should notice incidents which cause damage, but won't catch spinouts (or damage-off racing incidents). There are a couple of keystrokes which will take you to the beginning or end of replay (live action) - the END key takes you to live action, and HOME takes you to the start of the replay. You might need to add SHIFT to either command, though I think that just changes the focus car to your player car. We've put some thought into some of the other extensions you came up with - the "live commentary" mode in which the camera would follow interesting action, such as following race leader or focusing on close contention ... the hooks are in place to take viewing up to the next level, though I can't say if/when they might be used. Till then, enjoy the undocumented features you found (-: Charlie Heath Papyrus

I tried this on kali today. It seems to work ok, but I wasn't able to switch cars. That is, I could only watch my car and the "v" key didn't move the focus to another car. This feature isn't much good without being able to switch to other cars. So how do you do it? -- Pat Dotson

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>>>Well yesterday I for whatever reason tried this out. And it does it already. >>>You can actually watch the race realtime from the server and at the same >>>time switch camera angles, cars and go back and forth from replay to >>> realtime. You could have a group watch it like TV and have a moderator >>>immediately tell who was really at fualt in that latest tangle, no more >after >>> the race fact. >>There are a couple of keystrokes which will take you to the beginning or >>end of replay (live action) - the END key takes you to live action, and >>HOME takes you to the start of the replay. You might need to add SHIFT to >>either command, though I think that just changes the focus car to your >>player car. >>Charlie Heath >>Papyrus >I tried this on kali today. It seems to work ok, but I wasn't able >to switch cars. That is, I could only watch my car and the "v" key >didn't move the focus to another car. This feature isn't much good >without being able to switch to other cars. So how do you do it? >-- >Pat Dotson

Pat it only works if your the host. Mickey-POPS-Kerkes

It's supposed to be the "v" key...works fine on my system, but I haven't tried it on the 'net...I seem to remember it working fine in modem play...I'll give it another look. FWIW, the "c" key works as it does in N1, where you can switch between camera angles. Best Regards, Marc Marc J. Nelson Sim Racing News - USA http://members.aol.com/simracing

BEFORE: AFTER: Did this yesterday some more and it definatley is a crowd favorite, you get a lot of ohhs and ahhs. Once you get comfortable with the keys in full screen mode you can be pretty efficient moving around the field. It works great on reviewing crashes and to really harass some drivers when they make bonehead decisions right then and there. Still though the "I" button (incidents) isn't working for me. Also I'm hopping papy considers raising the IPX limit of 8 players to 12 or 16. Q.B.M.

From my experience, the 'v' key doesn't work for the client (dialup) machine, it only works on the server. It will work okay on a saved replay, but not during live play. Dave Sparks IWCCCARS Project: http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars Late Night League: http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html Hawaii Handle: davids