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My system update (IBM P166+ vs. Intel P150)

1 post by 1 person · 09 Feb 1997 - 09 Feb 1997

Yoshiki Mo 09 Feb 1997#355571
Hi all, Around Christmas, I asked questions regarding CPU and mother board. I had many replies, which helped me a lot, and requests for the report of the update. It took a while because I couldn't run ICR2 using Indyfast using IBM CPU and had to wait to get Intel P150. I have tried overclocking both Cyrix and Intel. Components: (I am not including the price, since they seem to fluctuate too much to be any reference.) Mother Board - Asus P/I-P55T2P4 rev. 3.1, 512k L2 cache IBM CPU - 686 P166+ rev. 3.7, 3.3V Intel CPU - P15016101760AC, Malay DV, BP80502150, SU071/SSS Graphic Board - Intergraph Reactor 3D Memory - 32MB 60ns EDO Asus P/I-P55T2P4 rev. 3.1 supports 75 MHz and 83 MHz bus speed and is certified by Cyrix for use with P166+. It uses Intel 430HX chipset. I decided to go with HX chipset and EDORAM as I couldnt afford SDRAM (Thus no reason to go with VX chipset. I was also told that HX chipset using EDORAM is faster than VX chipset using SDRAM). Performance: ICR2 IBM - I was getting 18 to 24 fps with all details on, 8 cars ahead/2 behind drawn. I had to use Indysafe as Indyfast does not support IBM/Cyrix CPU. Little improvement by overclocking CPU to run at 150 MHz (75 MHz*2 as P200+ CPU). Game was very playable at 18 fps, but I decided I wanted more. Intel Pentium 150 - I have never actually run this CPU at designed speed of 60 MHz*2.5 When running it at 166 MHz (83 MHz*2), I always get 30 fps, unless there is tire smoke somewhere in the sight (then it goes down to 27 fps). At 150 MHz (75 MHz*2), I get 30 fps unless I am in heavy traffic or in the pit lane with all other cars. Slowest frame rate I got was 24 fps. DMATest Results (PCI Latency Timer = 32) MS-DOS 6.22 Win95 DOS-prompt Programmed I/O 27.2 MB/sec 25.3 MB/sec DMA 98.1 MB/sec 96.5 MB/sec Sorry, no DMATest results for IBM as it doesnt run with IBM CPU. DMADiag reported 17.7 MB/sec FIFO and 78.1 MB/sec DMA with IBM CPU running at 133 MHz in MS-DOS 6.22. I suspect that the performance between IBM and Intel CUP is due to different bus speed, but I am not an expert. One thing I noticed was ICR2 is actually drivable and fun. It wasnt so with my old system, 486DX2/50, which gave me extremely choopy graphics in VGA mode. Win95 IBM/Cyrix is the absolute winner. Using WinBench97, IBM CPU running at 133 MHz (66 MHz*2) beat Intel P150 running at 166 MHz (83 MHz*2) in every category. Using Wintune95, I found out that floating point calculation speed of IBM P166+ is very similar to Intel Pentium 133. It is not as bad as what I heard before (that IBM/Cyrix P166+ floating point calculation speed is close to P90 or even P75). When I overclocked IBM CPU to run at 150 MHz, CPU got somewhat warm, and I had to reduce the memory timing to run Win95 without crashing for more than several hours. Thanks for everyone who game me recommendations. "At the beginning of any project, a high level of e***ment can be found with a low level of execution." - Trevor Harris

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