What are everybody's idea about an irl sim using the new G-force
chassis? I think they looked cool and when I went to the Indy 200 at
the Mickyard they raced really well. I think it would be cool to take
one and do a few laps at indy 8)
Thanks
Obi-Wan
Flame warProposal for an IRL sim turns into IRL versus CART fight
A fan proposed an IRL sim using the new G-Force chassis. This set off a bitter argument between IRL supporters and CART fans, with insults about oval-track fans. Some joked that Sega would get the licence.
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What the hell are you talking about, who would buy this crap, IRL is one
of the worst racing leagues i`ve ever saw.
it`s a failure.
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> > What are everybody's idea about an irl sim using the new G-force > > chassis? I think they looked cool and when I went to the Indy 200 at > > the Mickyard they raced really well. I think it would be cool to take > > one and do a few laps at indy 8) > > Thanks > > Obi-Wan > What the hell are you talking about, who would buy this crap, IRL is one > of the worst racing leagues i`ve ever saw. > it`s a failure.Quoted text (11 lines)
> > What are everybody's idea about an irl sim using the new G-force > > chassis? I think they looked cool and when I went to the Indy 200 at > > the Mickyard they raced really well. I think it would be cool to take > > one and do a few laps at indy 8) > > Thanks > > Obi-Wan > What the hell are you talking about, who would buy this crap, IRL is one > of the worst racing leagues i`ve ever saw. > it`s a failure.Quoted text (8 lines)
> OK....here we go with this one....I feel th eIRL is THE best > open-wheel series. CART is just like Formula 1 in my opinion; a bunch > of rich guys with nowhere else to spend money. > The IRL, on the other hand, is full of oval-track talent. Tony > Stewart, whom I met at Richmond at a USAC Silver Crown and Midget race, > is one of the best drivers I have ever seen in an open-wheel car. > Granted, his equipment may be lacking sometimes, but watch this kid in > the future: he'll be the next Jeff Gordon.Quoted text (7 lines)
> > > What are everybody's idea about an irl sim using the new G-force > > > chassis? I think they looked cool and when I went to the Indy 200 at > > > the Mickyard they raced really well. I think it would be cool to take > > > one and do a few laps at indy 8) > > > Thanks > > > Obi-Wan> > OK....here we go with this one....I feel th eIRL is THE best
> > open-wheel series. CART is just like Formula 1 in my opinion; a bunch
> > of rich guys with nowhere else to spend money.
> > The IRL, on the other hand, is full of oval-track talent. Tony
> > Stewart, whom I met at Richmond at a USAC Silver Crown and Midget race,
> > is one of the best drivers I have ever seen in an open-wheel car.
You must not have seen many .....
So what? Gordon is a stiff who couldn't possibly win in CART. He'd be
the american Raul Boesel ......
You are both laughable idiots. CART is by far the best, most
challenging open wheel series in the world. The drivers, teams and
competition are unmatched. F-1 is an engineering series, period. The
driver is an after thought. The IRL is below both Indy Lights and
Toyota Atlantic's in both teams and driver quality. And the racing in
those series is far better.
How about asking Jacques Villenuve? And would that be the Nigel Mansell
who went 0-16 in his second CART season and promptly took his ball and
went to F-1, where he proceeded to win the Aussie GP with ease?
Man, I highly recommend a quick and painless sterilization procedure for
both of you, you're to dumb to reproduce ........
What you MIGHT fail to realize here is that the IRL is an oval-only
series. I don't particularly care for road racing at all (CART or F1).
I grew up around short track racing, and that's where my opinionated
remarks lie. The IRL is allowing drivers that come from an oval
background to have a shot at the Indy 500. If the CART guys want to run
at Indy, let them spend the money to build new cars and allow them to
run with the IRL at Indy.
Yeah, well, you're "too" dumb to spell "too" correctly....
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> What you MIGHT fail to realize here is that the IRL is an oval-only > series. I don't particularly care for road racing at all (CART or F1). > I grew up around short track racing, and that's where my opinionated > remarks lie. The IRL is allowing drivers that come from an oval > background to have a shot at the Indy 500. If the CART guys want to run > at Indy, let them spend the money to build new cars and allow them to > run with the IRL at Indy.<
And Bobby Hamilton.
I think TGeorge will make the step to F1 after. With Jacques Villeneuve!
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Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand"
Nicolas Mnard "Nien Numb"
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May the force be with you, always!!
Que la force soit avec toi, jamais!(for you French people)
Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking)
Jeff Gordon Rocks. At his age he's not quite mature but next year his
experience will put him first in the WC.
Jacqques Villeneuve is the best driver in F1. And he would be the best
driver in CART. And in IRL. And in Nascar. So he's the pilot in the
world. Better that KING Hiro. :)
[===] Go R. Barrichello, Jacques Villeneuve,
| ! | And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is
|!| from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le
|o| Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
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Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand"
Nicolas Mnard "Nien Numb"
Nien Numb in the National Star Wars League(X-Wing vs Tie-Fighter league)
http://www.dakotacom.net/~strange/
http://www.starwars.com/
Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition,N2,Gp2,Icr2.How can my life be better?
May the force be with you, always!!
Que la force soit avec toi, jamais!(for you French people)
Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking)
Where in the hell did you go to school? Or were you too cool and smart
to stay in school and instead went around blasting everyones opinion
saying that disco is the end all to music?
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racecars"-Freejack
David W. McFarland
'87 LX hatch
At least they are smart enough to know that they might be TOO dumb to
reproduce. You know what they say about opinions.. well leave these
guys alone to state theirs.
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David W. McFarland
'87 LX hatch
I think an IRL Sim would do well. I also think that's very sad.
CART proved something, in my eyes: anybody racer can get good at oval
racing. Just look at Jaques Villeneuve and Nigel Mansel these guys had
little to no oval experience and went on to win on ovals consistantly. On
the other hand when was the last time you saw an "Oval Tallent" do well in
road racing. Take a look at America's beloved NASCAR. Every year they
race at Watkin's Glen and It's not a bad race. At the end of the race,
though, where are Robby Gordon, Bill Elliot, or any other championship
contendor's for that matter.(sorry I'm not up to date on who the best
drivers are so DON'T e-mail me pointing out some glaring omision because I
don't care)
The IRL was created because foreign drivers were coming into CART and
dominating. Who could blame them, here was a series with lots of
sponsership, television coverage and international recognition and it was 3
times more competitive than F1. Not to mention cheaper and easier to get a
ride in. Since Americans weren't ruling the roost any more several big
money owners pulled out and started their own league, were they could win
again. Sounds alot like when you were a kid and the guy who always lost
ran crying that he would start his own game and you wouldn't be aloud to
play, doesn't it.
IROC is another perfect example of this. They take a few select
European drivers (never famous ones mind you) and stick them in what are
essentially homolagized stock cars next to NASCAR and Winston Cup cars.
Then the American drivers win... OOWW SURPRISE!!! IMHO IROC is nothing
more than an American circle jerk.(Hey why not invite Nigel and Jaques this
year and see what happens???)
So will an IRL sim do well? Saddly yes. But on the bright side
maybe Americans can petition their local governments to start building road
systems that allow them to get from one place to another with out making
right turns. Then these oval tallents they develope on their computers can
be put to really good use.
-Marshall Mclean
P.S. I haven't seen the NASCARs run at "The Glen" in quite some time.
It's no longer a priority to tellevise and the broadcast is never announced
in advance here. I miss it.
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>> What are everybody's idea about an irl sim using the new G-force >> chassis? I think they looked cool and when I went to the Indy 200 at >> the Mickyard they raced really well. I think it would be cool to take >> one and do a few laps at indy 8) >> Thanks >> Obi-WanQuoted text (9 lines)
> >> ........chassis? I think they looked cool and when I went to the Indy 200 at > >> the Mickyard they raced really well. I think it would be cool to take > >> one and do a few laps at indy 8) > >> Thanks > >> Obi-Wan > Sega's probably already got the rights...Probably the game will be "IRL > Rally" for the Saturn.They'll most likely call it "Sega IRL" (Sega Is Really Lame)... ;)
Marc
reguard to reality...
I can understand that as I feel much the same way (at least until you watch
Alex Zanardi's banzai charge at Laguna Seca). That doesn't change the fact
that the IRL is a second best series at best. Take a trip over to the
Indianapolis Star's web page and check out their comments concerning the
IRL. In particular their article on driver safety.
So I've heard. And what did the Indy 500 have last year? A bunch of no
name talent running in old cars. I'm not going to use Brayton's death as a
symbol of the IRL beacause that could have happened in a CART car or a F1
car. Not to be surprised, veteran Indy/CART drivers tended to finish toward
the front while the rest of the pack went backward.
Don't even mention 'parity' and IRL in the same sentence, though. Menard's
lapping of the field at Disney put that notion to rest quite quickly. Now
CART has Penske and the IRL has Mendard. Unfortunately for Penske, he has
competition, Menard only has to overcome bad luck.
Drop the 25/8 and it would most likely be a done deal. Precious few of
those short track greats would get in to the big show though.
Mike
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> I think an IRL Sim would do well. I also think that's very sad.
> CART proved something, in my eyes: anybody racer can get good at oval
> racing. Just look at Jaques Villeneuve and Nigel Mansel these guys had
> little to no oval experience and went on to win on ovals consistantly.
J.V.? what about indy lights? that has ovals. I'm not posotive what he
did before that, but Nige is the perfect example like you say.
On
The IRL will be gone by the time develpment on an IRL sim is finished!
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> > I think an IRL Sim would do well. I also think that's very sad. > > CART proved something, in my eyes: anybody racer can get good at oval > > racing. Just look at Jaques Villeneuve and Nigel Mansel these guys had > > little to no oval experience and went on to win on ovals consistantly. > J.V.? what about indy lights? that has ovals. I'm not posotive what he > did before that, but Nige is the perfect example like you say.It can be done....Reduce your frame rate to about 5 on any existing sim


































