P200MMX Homebuild finally runs!(DMA test)

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>Well it was quite a learning experience, after asking lots of probably >stupid questions, and pulling a little hair out, I managed to get my >homebuild up and running. >I would like to say thanks Eric T. Busch, George Lewis, Bill Blose, and >Don Wilshe, for taking the time to help me out. It seems that I recieved >a bad Motherboard, which really sent me into spastic mode, when I >couldn't get the thing to boot. But after recieving a replacement >everything went fine. Wheeew. >System: >ASUS P/IP5T2P4 (HX chipset 512 onboard cache) >P200MMX >64mb TI EDO Ram >Intense 3D video card >Creative Labs Pnp32 >Hayes Accura 33.6 modem >17" monitor >I tested the dma performance: >In DOS box: >I/O: 20.1mb/sec. >DMA: 77.8 mb/sec >From DOS prompt: >I/O: 22.4 mb/sec. >DMA: 79.0 mb/sec. >This seems to be a little off of the 90mb/sec. that seems to be the >"optimal" performance. What could I do to >improve my dma test scores? How does this compare to other's with >similiar hardware? I flashed the bios on the Video card to 74. I am >thinking of overclocking it, but want to enjoy it a little before I >start tinkering.

That Asus board can be overclocked to 83 MHz bus speed and using a multiplier of 2.5 gives you 209 MHz processor speed which makes for a very fast system. If you go to a web page at [link lost in import] you will find info and benchmarks using your particular board as it is a favorite among people in search of the best possible performance. I don't have the info in front of me but if you want to know the jumper post your request here as I read this group frequently. Good luck John

Well it was quite a learning experience, after asking lots of probably stupid questions, and pulling a little hair out, I managed to get my homebuild up and running. I would like to say thanks Eric T. Busch, George Lewis, Bill Blose, and Don Wilshe, for taking the time to help me out. It seems that I recieved a bad Motherboard, which really sent me into spastic mode, when I couldn't get the thing to boot. But after recieving a replacement everything went fine. Wheeew. System: ASUS P/IP5T2P4 (HX chipset 512 onboard cache) P200MMX 64mb TI EDO Ram Intense 3D video card Creative Labs Pnp32 Hayes Accura 33.6 modem 17" monitor I tested the dma performance: In DOS box: I/O: 20.1mb/sec. DMA: 77.8 mb/sec From DOS prompt: I/O: 22.4 mb/sec. DMA: 79.0 mb/sec. This seems to be a little off of the 90mb/sec. that seems to be the "optimal" performance. What could I do to improve my dma test scores? How does this compare to other's with similiar hardware? I flashed the bios on the Video card to 74. I am thinking of overclocking it, but want to enjoy it a little before I start tinkering. I can run Nascar 1 at most tracks in traffic with the cars,wall,horizon,skids/paint,smoke/dirt,object textures on, at 29fps. I run a 29 car field with 15 drawn ahead 6 behind and 4 heard.At the smaller tracks like Bristol and Martinsville I turn the object textures off.Tracks like Dover seem to run fine and Dega is Awesome. Nascar2 runs GREAT especially from the dos prompt using renddma. Mick in Tampa -- Mike Schreiner http://pages.prodigy.com/CNSRL #3 = #8 in '97!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you have an option in your BIOS for PCI Latency timer, try bumping it up to a higher setting. With the ASUS board, you really should try running at 83x2.5 for about 208Mhz or 75x3 for 225Mhz. Your slow EDO may have some trouble with it, so you may need to tweak your memory settings in your BIOS. Despite what anyone says, your video card will be fine running at these higher bus speeds. The PCI bus runs at half of the external clock speed (83/2 or 74/2), and as a PCI 2.1 compliant card the Reactor is rated as stable up to 66Mhz. So as long as your not using a 133+Mhz bus speed, you'll be fine. =) -- The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars/index.html http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

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> >I tested the dma performance: > >In DOS box: > >I/O: 20.1mb/sec. > >DMA: 77.8 mb/sec > >From DOS prompt: > >I/O: 22.4 mb/sec. > >DMA: 79.0 mb/sec. > >This seems to be a little off of the 90mb/sec. that seems to be the > >"optimal" performance. What could I do to > >improve my dma test scores? How does this compare to other's with > >similiar hardware? I flashed the bios on the Video card to 74. I am > >thinking of overclocking it, but want to enjoy it a little before I > >start tinkering.

Mike: To increase your DMA scores, reboot your machine and enter setup(F1). Look around there (perhaps in "advanced chipset options") and find a setting for PCI latency. Try increasing this number (I moved up in increments of 10 clocks) to increase your DMA scores. Before doing this, I was getting 83 MB/sec. Afterward, I got 91MB/sec. I went from the original 66PCI latency clocks to 90. This was done on my Packard Bell P100. Be aware though, that your performance may or may not increase after doing this. My DMA went up, but my benchmarks in Quake did not increase at all. The true real-world effect of this is questionable. Congrats on the new homebuild! -- Matt Lewis

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> > >I tested the dma performance: > > >In DOS box: > > >I/O: 20.1mb/sec. > > >DMA: 77.8 mb/sec > > >From DOS prompt: > > >I/O: 22.4 mb/sec. > > >DMA: 79.0 mb/sec. > > >This seems to be a little off of the 90mb/sec. that seems to be the > > >"optimal" performance. What could I do to > > >improve my dma test scores? How does this compare to other's with > > >similiar hardware? I flashed the bios on the Video card to 74. I am > > >thinking of overclocking it, but want to enjoy it a little before I > > >start tinkering. > Mike: > To increase your DMA scores, reboot your machine and enter setup(F1). > Look around there (perhaps in "advanced chipset options") and find a > setting for PCI latency. Try increasing this number (I moved up in > increments of 10 clocks) to increase your DMA scores. Before doing > this, I was getting 83 MB/sec. Afterward, I got 91MB/sec. I went from > the original 66PCI latency clocks to 90. This was done on my Packard > Bell P100. > Be aware though, that your performance may or may not increase after > doing this. My DMA went up, but my benchmarks in Quake did not increase > at all. The true real-world effect of this is questionable. Congrats > on the new homebuild! > -- > Matt Lewis

I got an e-mail from a few people right after I posted this (thanks again guys) and I upped it to 100 and the dma score now is 102.7! Thanks for the info though. I ran a winbech97 on it also: WEIGHTED SUITE Hymco P5-200 P200mmx with Asus T/I P5T2... UNITS CPUMark16 344 409 [1] CPUmark32 338 389 [2] Business Disk WinMark 97 609 [4,5] 651 [2,3,4]K's/Bytes/Sec High-End Disk WinMark 97 2120 [4,5] 2730 [2,3,4]K's Bytes/Sec NOTES Legend: Best Score, Intermediate Score, Worst Score [1] The following Windows tasks were running during this test and could affect the test results: FMEDIA.EXE, RNAAPP.EXE, TAPIEXE.EXE [2] The following Windows tasks were running during this test and could affect the test results: FMEDIA.EXE [3] Common test settings: Disk Drive=C:\ Report CPU Utilization=No [4] The playback directory was C:\~wbdtmp [5] Common test settings: Disk Drive=C:\ CDROM Drive=D:\ Report CPU Utilization=No Mick in Tampa -- Mike Schreiner http://pages.prodigy.com/CNSRL #3 = #8 in '97!!!!!!!!!!!!

Try: http://www.microsoft.com/mediadev/download/isdk.htm -- The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars/index.html http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

: > >I tested the dma performance: : > >In DOS box: : > >I/O: 20.1mb/sec. : > >DMA: 77.8 mb/sec : > >From DOS prompt: : > >I/O: 22.4 mb/sec. : > >DMA: 79.0 mb/sec. : > >This seems to be a little off of the 90mb/sec. that seems to be the : > >"optimal" performance. What could I do to : > >improve my dma test scores? How does this compare to other's with : > >similiar hardware? I flashed the bios on the Video card to 74. I am : > >thinking of overclocking it, but want to enjoy it a little before I : > >start tinkering. Can somebody tell me which program you are using to do these tests? Where I can get it etc... Neil ******************************************************************* * Neil Jowsey Computing Services (Brownlow Hill) * * http://www.liv.ac.uk./~neilj/home.html PO Box 147, Liverpool * * Voice +44 151-794-4582 L69 3BX * * Fax +44 151-794-4442 UK * ******************************************************************* USES Disclaimer; { The views expressed here are not necessarily those of the } { University or me come to that. Alright! }

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> : > >I tested the dma performance: > : > >In DOS box: > : > >I/O: 20.1mb/sec. > : > >DMA: 77.8 mb/sec > : > >From DOS prompt: > : > >I/O: 22.4 mb/sec. > : > >DMA: 79.0 mb/sec. > : > >This seems to be a little off of the 90mb/sec. that seems to be the > : > >"optimal" performance. What could I do to > : > >improve my dma test scores? How does this compare to other's with > : > >similiar hardware? I flashed the bios on the Video card to 74. I am > : > >thinking of overclocking it, but want to enjoy it a little before I > : > >start tinkering. > Can somebody tell me which program you are using to do these tests? > Where I can get it etc... > Neil

This is what I used: Winbench97: http://www.zdnet.com/zdbop/winbench/winbench.html Chris's 3D Bench: ftp://ftp.sysdoc.pair.com/pub/cbench.zip Post or send me your results so I can do some comparisons, always lookin for a way to get it running a little better. btw- I upped the PCI latencey and now get a dma of: 102.7 mb/sec. If you want the oc'ing results e-mail or post. Mick in Tampa -- Mike Schreiner http://pages.prodigy.com/CNSRL #3 = #8 in '97!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry you wanted the dma test.............. Get it here at Eric Busch's webpage: on "utilities" page http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/ Mick in Tampa -- Mike Schreiner http://pages.prodigy.com/CNSRL #3 = #8 in '97!!!!!!!!!!!!