GP2 quirks after using 97carset and gp2 Editor?

I have installed the following files/patches to my full installation of GP2: (1) nocdrom.zip (2) Pieter's 97 Carset V 2.2b (3) GP2 Editor V2.12 The nocdrom.zip file patches GP2 so that it does not seek the CD-ROM and patched GP2 to V1.0b. The 97 Carset updates drivers, helmets, cars,***pit colors, tires, etc. Its a great carset. I have used GP2 Editor to alter the distance of the quickrace, and removed the pit lane speed limit, failure rate, grip, and some other things.... But what I have noticed is that after finishing a race, the game will not end becuase there is a driver who is either in the sand or against a wall that is stuck between 1st and power turn gear. This car doesn't move at all and until you either crash into him or you move him to another location and then finally a marshall will pull him off of the track. Until you do this the game will not end, even if you use accelerated time. A friend of mine who has installed the same three files has the identical problem. Have any of you ran into this quirk/bug? Thanks PI

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>I have installed the following files/patches to my full installation >of GP2: >(1) nocdrom.zip >(2) Pieter's 97 Carset V 2.2b >(3) GP2 Editor V2.12 >The nocdrom.zip file patches GP2 so that it does not seek the CD-ROM >and patched GP2 to V1.0b. The 97 Carset updates drivers, helmets, >cars,***pit colors, tires, etc. Its a great carset. I have used >GP2 Editor to alter the distance of the quickrace, and removed the pit >lane speed limit, failure rate, grip, and some other things.... But >what I have noticed is that after finishing a race, the game will not >end becuase there is a driver who is either in the sand or against a >wall that is stuck between 1st and power turn gear. This car doesn't >move at all and until you either crash into him or you move him to >another location and then finally a marshall will pull him off of the >track. Until you do this the game will not end, even if you use >accelerated time. A friend of mine who has installed the same three >files has the identical problem. Have any of you ran into this >quirk/bug? >Thanks >PI

Yes. I have the same. It is very annoying. I just installed the game from scratch and said *** it to these add ons. Ian.

someone who's in the know, please post which of the 3 might or is responsible? Thanks!

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>>I have installed the following files/patches to my full installation >>of GP2: >>(1) nocdrom.zip >>(2) Pieter's 97 Carset V 2.2b >>(3) GP2 Editor V2.12 >>The nocdrom.zip file patches GP2 so that it does not seek the CD-ROM >>and patched GP2 to V1.0b. The 97 Carset updates drivers, helmets, >>cars,***pit colors, tires, etc. Its a great carset. I have used >>GP2 Editor to alter the distance of the quickrace, and removed the pit >>lane speed limit, failure rate, grip, and some other things.... But >>what I have noticed is that after finishing a race, the game will not >>end becuase there is a driver who is either in the sand or against a >>wall that is stuck between 1st and power turn gear. This car doesn't >>move at all and until you either crash into him or you move him to >>another location and then finally a marshall will pull him off of the >>track. Until you do this the game will not end, even if you use >>accelerated time. A friend of mine who has installed the same three >>files has the identical problem. Have any of you ran into this >>quirk/bug? >>Thanks >>PI >Yes. I have the same. It is very annoying. >I just installed the game from scratch and said *** it >to these add ons. >Ian.

Try installing them again in a different order? **Peter** #:?)

Hi, >someone who's in the know, please post which of the 3 might or is >responsible? It's a combination of the patches together. My carsets work fine on a clean GP2.EXE. >>>I have installed the following files/patches to my full installation >>>of GP2: >>>(1) nocdrom.zip >>>(2) Pieter's 97 Carset V 2.2b >>>(3) GP2 Editor V2.12

: I have installed the following files/patches to my full installation : of GP2: : (1) nocdrom.zip : (2) Pieter's 97 Carset V 2.2b : (3) GP2 Editor V2.12 I had some problems myself when I was working out the details of my 1993 carset. After I'd changed every car's horsepower ratings to '93 levels, at least one of the drivers would also get stuck in a sandtrap -flicking constantly between power turn and first gear (or neutral- for the duration of the entire race. Alarmed by this, I dropped each car's output by 30bhp and the craziness stopped. I'm not absolutely sure if changing horsepower is the true culprit in this occurrence. As far as I know, most people have had nocdrom.zip work very well for them. Pieter's carsets should be innocent as well, as I've yet to see a bad graphic file throw off the entire game. However, Pieter includes in his carsets the import/export file GP2EDEXP.EXE of GP2 Editor. I hate to point fingers, especially when I'm pointing them at a utility that works very well for me about 80% of the time. GP2 Editor (even V.2.12b) is pretty erratic and may/may not cause problems on any given computer. Just make sure you've got backups of the main program files - i.e. your CD. If you don't have the CD, then backup GP2.EXE. Martin Nigel Mansell RIP! 1993 Carset still available! 1995 Carset coming soon!

Yes, I had a similar quirky reaction following the installation of the 97 car set. On a few tracks one or more cars would be stalled on the grid, with the result that on the first lap they were rear ended by the pack - massive pile up. Cheers Steve

I had to reinstall as well before I could install the patch. I don't think GP2 likes being changed very much. Still you have to love Pieter and PK's carsets. I don't think I'd still attempt to drive in the game if it weren't for that new stuff and the ability to make my own ride. -- There is no problem we can't ignore if we really put our minds to it. GO #2! Mullins Motorsports Inc. http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj

Actually I believe that this is one of the bugs in the game. This will usually cause the race to go on endlessly while the idiotic computer car sits there in the sand switching gears. The only way I know of to remedy the problem is to turn on the "invincible" cheat (F4) after the race and ram the hell out of the stuck car. This will either break his car apart and force him out of the race or it will jar him into action and he will switch into first and take off.

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> : I have installed the following files/patches to my full installation > : of GP2: > : (1) nocdrom.zip > : (2) Pieter's 97 Carset V 2.2b > : (3) GP2 Editor V2.12 > I had some problems myself when I was working out the details of > my 1993 carset. After I'd changed every car's horsepower ratings to '93 > levels, at least one of the drivers would also get stuck in a sandtrap > -flicking constantly between power turn and first gear (or neutral- for > the duration of the entire race. Alarmed by this, I dropped each car's > output by 30bhp and the craziness stopped. I'm not absolutely sure if > changing horsepower is the true culprit in this occurrence. > As far as I know, most people have had nocdrom.zip work very well > for them. Pieter's carsets should be innocent as well, as I've yet to > see a bad graphic file throw off the entire game. However, Pieter > includes in his carsets the import/export file GP2EDEXP.EXE of GP2 > Editor. > I hate to point fingers, especially when I'm pointing them at a utility > that works very well for me about 80% of the time. GP2 Editor (even > V.2.12b) is pretty erratic and may/may not cause problems on any given > computer. Just make sure you've got backups of the main program files - > i.e. your CD. If you don't have the CD, then backup GP2.EXE. > Martin > Nigel Mansell RIP! > 1993 Carset still available! 1995 Carset coming soon!

: Actually I believe that this is one of the bugs in the game. This will : usually cause the race to go on endlessly while the idiotic computer car : sits there in the sand switching gears. The only way I know of to remedy : the problem is to turn on the "invincible" cheat (F4) after the race and : ram the hell out of the stuck car. This will either break his car apart : and force him out of the race or it will jar him into action and he will : switch into first and take off. I don't know about this... In my experiences, "stupid driver syndrome" occurs either many times in a row, or not at all. I'm still not sure as to what exactly triggers it, but if it happens to you once, chances are that it will happen again until your GP2.EXE is changed. Out of curiousity, did this happen to you with a clean GP2.EXE, or after you'd installed a new carset? Martin Nigel Mansell RIP!

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>I have installed the following files/patches to my full installation >of GP2: >(1) nocdrom.zip >(2) Pieter's 97 Carset V 2.2b >(3) GP2 Editor V2.12 >The nocdrom.zip file patches GP2 so that it does not seek the CD-ROM >and patched GP2 to V1.0b. The 97 Carset updates drivers, helmets, >cars,***pit colors, tires, etc. Its a great carset. I have used >GP2 Editor to alter the distance of the quickrace, and removed the pit >lane speed limit, failure rate, grip, and some other things.... But >what I have noticed is that after finishing a race, the game will not >end becuase there is a driver who is either in the sand or against a >wall that is stuck between 1st and power turn gear. This car doesn't >move at all and until you either crash into him or you move him to >another location and then finally a marshall will pull him off of the >track. Until you do this the game will not end, even if you use >accelerated time. A friend of mine who has installed the same three >files has the identical problem. Have any of you ran into this >quirk/bug? >Thanks >PI

i have had this with this with the 96 & 97 carsets from p.k.arnall,i got round it by importing from the game into s.m youngs editor and saving it as a .gp2 file and then re exporting it to gp2,either the carsets are at fault or the editor itself (v2.21b incidently) has slobodan blanusa any comments or mr arnall,by the way their efforts are still very much appreciated and admired. vic [link lost in import: /\gp2.html]

"Stupid driver sydrome" (a great name for it BTW) has happened to me in both cases-right out of the box and with new carsets installed. It seems like it happens a lot more when there are multiple crashes in the race. > : Actually I believe that this is one of the bugs in the game. This will > : usually cause the race to go on endlessly while the idiotic computer car > : sits there in the sand switching gears. The only way I know of to remedy > : the problem is to turn on the "invincible" cheat (F4) after the race and > : ram the hell out of the stuck car. This will either break his car apart > : and force him out of the race or it will jar him into action and he will

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> : switch into first and take off. > I don't know about this... In my experiences, "stupid driver > syndrome" occurs either many times in a row, or not at all. I'm still > not sure as to what exactly triggers it, but if it happens to you once, > chances are that it will happen again until your GP2.EXE is changed. > Out of curiousity, did this happen to you with a clean GP2.EXE, > or after you'd installed a new carset? > Martin > Nigel Mansell RIP!