benefits to dedicated game card?

Hi. What are the general symptoms of *not* using a gamecard (like the Thrustmaster ACM) with a wheel/pedal setup (like the T2)? Just want to know so I can recognize it... ...Andrew

On Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:44:56 -0500, Andrew Lavigne >What are the general symptoms of *not* using a gamecard (like the >Thrustmaster ACM) with a wheel/pedal setup (like the T2)? Some people have reported drifting, i.e. the car going left or right even when controls are properly calibrated. With the gameport on my SBAWE32 I did not notice anything like that. My symptoms were different. The pedals had a very short 'working area', I pressed a tag and wheels locked or was at max revs. I could not find an ACM in local stores and went with the CH Automatic 3. The controls improved a bit, the pedals were responding about 50% of the way. Then I found the ACM and am happy with my pedals now. This is due to the potentiometers TM uses. They are 200K, whereas standard joystick pots are 100K (and regular gameports expect values for 100K pots). The CH Automatic Gamecard 3, with a special switch for Thrustmaster controls accepts pots up to 150K, and of course the ACM works with 200K pots. Hmmm... Is this a ***, I wonder? :) BTW, all this testing was done with GP2. Karim Sincerely, Karim ---------------------------------------- Warning: e-mail address protected by Anti-Bot Protection:) Please double any reply with an e-mail. My ISP loses them less often :(

By your post, I assume the ACM is the ThrustMaster Card. It sounds like it is the best bet for the T2. I bought the GP1 wheel with CH peddals. Got any info on the pots for CH? (sounds like they are standard). I think I've see the box for the ACM, and it looks like there is a goofy pot adjustment which plugs into the the card for speed adjustment. How do you like this, and have you had any problems with it? Lastly, must you, or can you adjust the ACM to pots which are 100k and 200k, as I have above, at the same time, or is the 100k issue settle itself? ----

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>On Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:44:56 -0500, Andrew Lavigne >>What are the general symptoms of *not* using a gamecard (like the >>Thrustmaster ACM) with a wheel/pedal setup (like the T2)? >... Then I found the ACM and am happy with my pedals now. >This is due to the potentiometers TM uses. They are 200K, whereas >standard joystick pots are 100K (and regular gameports expect values >for 100K pots). The CH Automatic Gamecard 3, with a special switch for >Thrustmaster controls accepts pots up to 150K, and of course the ACM >works with 200K pots. >.... >Hmmm... Is this a ***, I wonder? :) ...

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> Hi. > What are the general symptoms of *not* using a gamecard (like the > Thrustmaster ACM) with a wheel/pedal setup (like the T2)? > Just want to know so I can recognize it... > ...Andrew

Well when I picked up the ACM calibration for my T2 was much more stable. -- There is no problem we can't ignore if we really put our minds to it. GO #2! Mullins Motorsports Inc. http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj

: Hi. : What are the general symptoms of *not* using a gamecard (like the : Thrustmaster ACM) with a wheel/pedal setup (like the T2)? : Just want to know so I can recognize it... For me it was a "twitchy" car in ICR2, really had a hard time making minor steering adjustments. Especially noticable when trying to maintain a straight line. Also had a hard time keeping a constant speed in the pit lane. I always had to keep it a few mph below the limit, as just a minor pressure change on the pedal would cause it jump a few mph. Also the calibration number range. Without the ACM my range in NASCAR2 was 14 - 1963. With the ACM (after calibrating it for the speed of my machine) 0 - 190. For a full report see my responses under the subject "ACM, Gamecard 3, others?" -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

: By your post, I assume the ACM is the ThrustMaster Card. It sounds : like it is the best bet for the T2. I bought the GP1 wheel with CH : peddals. Got any info on the pots for CH? (sounds like they are : standard). I think I've see the box for the ACM, and it looks like : there is a goofy pot adjustment which plugs into the the card for : speed adjustment. How do you like this, and have you had any problems : with it? : Lastly, must you, or can you adjust the ACM to pots which are 100k and : 200k, as I have above, at the same time, or is the 100k issue settle : itself? The "goofy" external adjustment is why the ACM is better that the CH. This will actually allow you to make calibration changes on the card while you are in your game. This can allow fine tuning for each game you play. Since no joystick routine seems to be the same from product to product, this will allow you to adjust on the fly. With the CH you would need to exit the game, run the CH software, calibrate the card, exit the CH software, run your game. . . . I don't have an answer to your last question, but would hazard to guess that you can at least adjust the card to achieve a "happy medium". -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=