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ICR2 General Car Setup - Turbocharger

9 posts by 8 people · 04 Jan 1997 - 09 Jan 1997

ENRicks 04 Jan 1997#351804
After seven months of offering advise to others, I have stumbled on a question of my own: While fine tuning most of my setups for the street circuits, I'm now in a dilema of sorts. In racing reality and by suggestion of the ICR2 manual, one should usually pilot with one's turbocharger at a setting of ~6-8 using higher as necessary during the race. We all know that 9 is the awesome power front, and it is generally were I like to run constantly at 100+% races. Is this a bad habit that should be changed? If so, and most importantly, at what turbo setting should a driver utilize during the testing and developing fine-tuned setups? Surely it cann't just be a matter of personal preference, but after running max turbo for some time (at the expense of greater engine wear and fuel consumption = increased pit stops) it is difficult to "step backwards". Thank you for your suggestions and keep the faith.
Doug Reichl 05 Jan 1997#351989
: In racing reality and by suggestion of the ICR2 manual, one should : usually pilot with one's turbocharger at a setting of ~6-8 using higher : as necessary during the race. We all know that 9 is the awesome power : front, and it is generally were I like to run constantly at 100+% : races. Is this a bad habit that should be changed? Leave it on 9. There is seldom any reason to take it off of 9. Papyrus 'sims'<cough> do not have 'fuel limits', meaning you can make as many fuel stops as you want until you finish the race. If you want to save fuel, use a lower 6th gear ratio, not less turbo. Unless you have 3 laps to go and 2.5 laps of fuel. Then you might want to turn boost down to 6 or so to make it to the line (that's the ONLY reason to turn down boost). Some people may suggest that you start with a boost of 3 or 4 and turn it up as the tires warm up, but there is no need to. I personally NEVER take it off of 9. Once fuel consumption becomes a factor in these 'sims'<cough>, then I will consider the turbo as a tool, not just a fancy dial that I can turn.
Unless you are a one of the few cracker sim pilots out there, I don't think you can run with the AI at 100% without the boost set to 9. I think Papy forgot to instruct the AI to turn down their boost. I only turned down the boost if I felt I could squeeze a few laps out before the checker to avoid one last pit stop. But, then I'm not one of the fastest drivers out there either. Heck, I'm like the guy from Spinal Tap, I want an "11" on my turbo-boost. : After seven months of offering advise to others, I have stumbled on a : question of my own: : While fine tuning most of my setups for the street circuits, I'm now in : a dilema of sorts. : In racing reality and by suggestion of the ICR2 manual, one should : usually pilot with one's turbocharger at a setting of ~6-8 using higher : as necessary during the race. We all know that 9 is the awesome power : front, and it is generally were I like to run constantly at 100+% : races. Is this a bad habit that should be changed? : If so, and most importantly, at what turbo setting should a driver : utilize during the testing and developing fine-tuned setups? : Surely it cann't just be a matter of personal preference, but after : running max turbo for some time (at the expense of greater engine wear : and fuel consumption = increased pit stops) it is difficult to "step : backwards". : Thank you for your suggestions and keep the faith. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
I'd say use full turbo, so long as you can comfortably handle it (and its best to learn how to handle it, because you'll need it *somewhere* on most of the tracks). What we *really* need is for ICR3 (assuming it happens) to have a total race fuel limit, so we have to think about fuel conservation, just like the real thing. End-race pit stop strategy is the main reason for turning down the turbo (but it pales in comparison to not having *any* fuel left in the pits ;). I don't think there is a significant increase in breakdowns with full turbo (unless you over-rev). Pick one or more: Model Rockets (competition-NERCB) / PCs (even Atari!) / Papyrus ICR-ICR2-NCR / Who needs a life when you have multiple non-lives?
Al F 06 Jan 1997#352166
At Michigan , however, your car will overheat if you run flat out with full boost for more than 20 or 30 laps... -Al
David Spark 06 Jan 1997#352167
Don't they actually adjust the fuel mixture and not the turbo boost in the real Indycars? When I'm running low on fuel, I just shift earlier on the road courses. On ovals, I setup 5th gear as my normal racing gear and 6th gear as an economy gear. Dave (davids) Sparks Late Night League http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html
Neil Yeatma 06 Jan 1997#352168
> Don't they actually adjust the fuel mixture and not the turbo boost in the > real Indycars? When I'm running low on fuel, I just shift earlier on the > road courses. On ovals, I setup 5th gear as my normal racing gear and 6th > gear as an economy gear. Hi David, You're absolutely right...fuel mixture is what the drivers mess with the most. I don't even know if they have an in-car boost control, but mixture is definitely used, and I believe it helped the Target boys bigtime this year (plus the white "mystery" button they had!). I personally use turbo boost for fuel economy only...otherwise it lives at "9". Big difference from ICR1 when I used to run short ovals flipping back and forth from 6 to 9 on the turns and straights. Neil -- | \| |/ _ \ | | Neil Yeatman | |\ | __/ | | Ajax, Ontario, CANADA |_| \_|\___|_|_|
poo.. 07 Jan 1997#352332
On Mon, 06 Jan 1997 21:20:54 -0500, Neil Yeatman >You're absolutely right...fuel mixture is what the drivers mess with the >most. I don't even know if they have an in-car boost control, but >mixture is definitely used <snip> Actually, I'm 99% certain that they have both a boost AND a mixture control in the***pit. Cheers, Pooch O-iiiii-O
>At Michigan , however, your car will overheat if you run flat out with >full boost for more than 20 or 30 laps... >-Al Have you tried a higher (numerically lower) 6th gear ratio to reduce RPM (and engine temp)? Before you send me UCE, I know what you're thinking... Did he complain to five or six postmasters last month? Now, you must ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do you, punk?

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