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can't get n2 to run!

5 posts by 5 people · 26 Dec 1996 - 29 Dec 1996

I have a AMD133, 32m ram and stealth3d vid. card. I installed the win95 and dos ver. also with a boot disk and still can't get it to run. Anyone have any idea how I can get n2 to run? Is it the AMD chip that won't let it run? Please help me.
> I have a AMD133, 32m ram and stealth3d vid. card. I installed the win95 and > dos ver. also with a boot disk and still can't get it to run. Anyone have > any idea how I can get n2 to run? Is it the AMD chip that won't let it run? > Please help me. I have an AMD100 with the same problem. I contacted Sierra and they couldn't help me, they suggested a few things but none helped. I figure its my motherboard (conflict somewhere)... My wife got me a Reactor 3D card for Xmas and I'm ordering a new motherboard with an Intel P166 chip. Have to bit the bullet to play with the big boys,,, Good Luck, couldn't resolve my problem
sbesh.. 28 Dec 1996#350645
>> I have a AMD133, 32m ram and stealth3d vid. card. I installed the win95 and >> dos ver. also with a boot disk and still can't get it to run. Anyone have >> any idea how I can get n2 to run? Is it the AMD chip that won't let it run?
Quoted text (11 lines)>> Please help me. >I have an AMD100 with the same problem. I contacted Sierra and they >couldn't help me, they suggested a few things but none helped. I figure >its my motherboard (conflict somewhere)... My wife got me a Reactor 3D >card for Xmas and I'm ordering a new motherboard with an Intel P166 chip. > Have to bit the bullet to play with the big boys,,, >Good Luck, couldn't resolve my problem
In my humble opinion nascar2 has been ported to the pentium processor. Note the Intel link on the Papyrus home page. Just as the game was exclusively optimized for the rendition chipset. Money is money. Business is business. You bought it. It's yours. Now you will spend $900 to play one stupid game. Nascar1 runs great on AMD and Cyrix.
ja.. 29 Dec 1996#350789
Quoted text (13 lines)>>> I have a AMD133, 32m ram and stealth3d vid. card. I installed the win95 >and >>> dos ver. also with a boot disk and still can't get it to run. Anyone >have >>> any idea how I can get n2 to run? Is it the AMD chip that won't let it >run? > In my humble opinion nascar2 has been ported to the pentium processor. >Note the Intel link on the Papyrus home page. >Just as the game was exclusively optimized for the rendition chipset. >Money is money. Business is business. >You bought it. It's yours. >Now you will spend $900 to play one stupid game. >Nascar1 runs great on AMD and Cyrix.
Well a lot of people are gonna hate me for this but...................AMD and Cyrix are the one's saying that what they sell is "compatible" and as fast or faster then the Pentiums. SO why don't all the people that bought them *** at THEM? And not the people who made the software? COME ON put the blame in the right place!!! After all I've seen I'd say the so called compatibility is a JOKE. The way you people whine about this is a joke, I'm surprised that someone ain't ***in that they can't get NC2 to run on their Atari ST or TI99. You get what you pay for......AND you DID NOT pay for a Pentium, but yet you cry. You brag how cheap it was to buy them and how fast the chips run a benchmark and then throw a fit when they won't run a real world program. Just my opinion but you should tell AMD & Cryrix that the products they are selling are IN FACT NOT compatible as they claim, Not the people who wrote the software! Sure you save a buck.......But at least I know my Pentium will run as a Pentium, so if it runs the program right it was money well spent. But PLEASE all you people keep buying all those other chips because the only good they do is help drop the price on the real things! OK that said I'm ready to get blasted now. But remember blame those who made the chips, not me & not Papy or Sierra or whoever made the program that wants a real Pentium. Jack
I'm not gonna blast you for your comments, everyone is entitled to an opinion. BUT, as a rebuttal I offer this. I have a Cyrix P166+ with all the bells and whistles to go along with it and my performance in the "real" world is amazing! Frame rates on ALL of my games as well as benchmarks in and out of Win95 are far superior to my overclocked Pentium 150! Even "Pentium" games like Mech 2 for Win95 are better on the Cyrix. I wonder what it will be like when I finally breakdown and overclock the Cyrix to 75x2! My ONLY (and I do mean ONLY -as in everything else works like it should) problem is with the joystick in RENDDMA for Nascar2, and since it was mentioned in the readme file, it would appear that Sierra/Papy is at least somewhat concerned about non-Intel users.... and to be honest we're talking about getting 4 companies' products to work together (Cyrix, Intergraph, Sierra, and Rendition.) Yes, it is Cyrix's responsibility to be "truly" Pentium compatible if they are going to claim to be, but if 99% of the programs run without problems (a number which isn't much different than Intel's number) then I think they've done their job. And as far as Sierra is concerned, the Nascar 2 box says 486 and Pentium on it, but nowhere does it say "Intel" or "Intel Only" so I feel like they are obviously marketing to everyone. I also might be more forgiving if NASCAR 2 wasn't riddled with other bugs. I'm not saying it isn't my favorite game in the world though<G>, just not up to Papyrus' standard. My "true" Papyrus programs all run great with my Cyrix and I can't help but feel that Sierra's involvement has hurt Papyrus' work ethic. We'll get a good judge on that by how quick and how thorough a patch is. I just hope the joystick issue is one of many covered! BTW, for you Papyrus folks out there, you are still the greatest driving simulator makers going, I just haven't had much luck with your parent company...... Anyway, just another opinion. I do think however, that a lot of people have problems with Cyrix and AMD (but Cyrix in particular) because of the way they are marketed. They are presented as a drop in replacement for the Intel and they aren't (at least in Cyrix's case). You've got to have the right hardware to make it work well (which requires a little reading and a little knowledge), but when you do that you get an excellent set-up for a great price. Jim Grayson Air Traffic Control Specialist - Automation - Memphis ARTCC me for this

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