n2+cyrix+T2=crap

I bought a new mb with a Cyrix 166+ last summer in preperation for n2. Than i bought the reactor vid card for the same reason. Indy safe worked but indyfast was a no go. I tried all the usual boot disk dmadiag.exe and it always gave me an exception code error. I was worried about n2 working in dma mode but when i finaly got the sim it did work in dma mode but as it states in the readme file the T2 does not work well with the cyrix. The car would jerk the the left when raceing but worked good in svga mode. So why did i spend the money on a 3d card and not be able to use it in 3d mode!!!! I traded the cyrix cpu in and a few bucks to boot for a pentium 166 chip and n2 in dma mode workes great!!! Indyfast even works now!!! later gwc

Another happy Cyrix customer. And people wonder why I am so critical of the Cyrix chips....Go Figure. ------ August Branchesi Systems Programmer / Apex Mrsketing Group http://members.visi.net/~muja

: Another happy Cyrix customer. And people wonder why I am so critical of : the Cyrix chips....Go Figure. : ------ : August Branchesi I have N2/ICR2/GP2/etc, Cyrix p166+, Asus T2P4, Herc Stingray 64/video, T1, and am very happy..."another happy Cyrix customer", go figure.

I to have a Cyrix 150+, N2, ICR2, T2 Wheel and have no problems at all. Steering is a little more sensitive in N2 compared to past sims, but no problems in traffic. I will be installing a Reactor card in a day or two and expect a little more work in the compatibility area, but we will see. I believe that most peoples problems are not in the hardware they physically have but in how they set it up and configure win95 to talk to it. To many times I see "I can't get this ***to work!" or "I have the same setup and mine works fine!" The biggest variable then would more than likely be the software setup. IMHO. Keep fiddling with it and learn! Steve > : Another happy Cyrix customer. And people wonder why I am so critical of > : the Cyrix chips....Go Figure. > : ------ > : August Branchesi > I have N2/ICR2/GP2/etc, Cyrix p166+, Asus T2P4, Herc Stingray 64/video, > T1, and am very happy..."another happy Cyrix customer", go figure.

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> > : Another happy Cyrix customer. And people wonder why I am so critical > of > > : the Cyrix chips....Go Figure. > > : ------ > > : August Branchesi > > I have N2/ICR2/GP2/etc, Cyrix p166+, Asus T2P4, Herc Stingray 64/video, > > T1, and am very happy..."another happy Cyrix customer", go figure.

As I understand it the Reactor card (and presumably any other verite based cards) causes erratic control responses (with joystick/wheels) when ran in the "best" mode, i.e. DMA mode. For myself (a cyrix & rendition owner) the game runs fine (abiet with a lousy frame rate) in standard mode and in the basic enhanced mode. As is mentioned in the readme, while using the dma mode the car gets erratic control inputs and seems to be very hard to steer at slow speeds (its like the car is getting hit with extreme sudden cross wind gusts or something like that - it will do it even when you are not touching the controller). Even though the frame rate is fantastic, many tracks are undrivable due to this (MIS and Tally because its very hard to hold the car in a steady draft and the road courses - in the slow corners the car will not steer at all). This is not a Win95 compatabiltiy problem - it does this whilst run in dos as well. If you plan to stick with a Cyrix processor, my advice would be to stay away from the verite cards since you are likely to experience the same and the basic enhanced mode isn't good enough to justify the cost.

: : Another happy Cyrix customer. And people wonder why I am so critical of : : the Cyrix chips....Go Figure. : : ------ : : August Branchesi : : I have N2/ICR2/GP2/etc, Cyrix p166+, Asus T2P4, Herc Stingray 64/video, : T1, and am very happy..."another happy Cyrix customer", go figure. i must agree.....i've got n2 on my cyrix 166+ and have had no problems...and even get better speed than my friends PENTIUM 166..go figure (and had extra money to buy some more games ...LOL) pac -- Ph. 540-831-5978 Radford Univ. CS SysAdmin http://www.runet.edu/~pac Nascar Pick12 Contest: http://www.cs.runet.edu/~pac/pick12.html All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.

I have a Cyrix 6x86 166 and have a Reactor on the way. Is anyone using this combination without a problem??? Does everyone with this combo have a problem in rendition mode? Thanks

I have a Cyrix/Reactor setup and everything works and looks great with one exception... the joystick is real jerky (read: unusable) in renddma. Keyboard controls work great (as great as they can anyway) in renddma and it looks AWESOME! Frame rate is outstanding - all on with asphalt on auto and min frame rate set to 27 and it stays on at all times (Dega with full field). As soon as we get the Rendition-Cyrix joystick problem solved (anyone out there with ideas/knowledge on the situation?) it will be perfect! BTW - N2rend looks as good but frame rate takes a big hit - lots of stutters and warps - but the joystick works fine with it - go figure! And regular N2 works fine - good frame rate and joystick OK. Here's the rest of my system info Cyrix P166+ (not overclocked......yet!) Shuttle HOT 553 w/512k PB Cache and 32 MB RAM (latest BIOS flashed) Reactor 3D SoundBlaster 16 (Game port physically disabled by jumper) CH Products Gamecard 3 Automatic Extreme Competition Controls Driving System (1st generation) Pioneer 12x CD-ROM (EIDE) Western Digital 3.1 Gig HDD (EIDE - 4 Partitions) Jim Grayson Air Traffic Control Specialist - Automation - Memphis ARTCC

I Have a new MB and a cyrix p166+, along with a new screamin 3d card. The dma tests all crash with code op errors. ICR2 will not run in indyfast but will run indysafe. I have had N2 run in renddma but the car is so twithcy it isn't worth it. Can this be beat best with a new wheel/ pedal set or should I take the cyrix chip back and get the pentium?

That is what I did....take out the Cyrix and put a Pentium in. Steering now smooth as silk. Ron

Papyrus is aware of it (it's in the N2 readme). The question is if fixing it is a high enough priority. For your own sake, *all* of you Cyrix users out there should make your problem known directly to Papyrus (not just here on RAS). No need to get militant about it, but just so they know how many Cyrix users out there who have the problem. From an uneffected but sympathetic new Pentium user who passed on the Cyrix chip... Pick one or more: Model Rockets (competition-NERCB) / PCs (even Atari!) / Papyrus ICR-ICR2-NCR / Who needs a life when you have multiple non-lives?

I have that same problem but my wheel is uncontrollable in RendDma. I'm running off my sound card, would a game card help????

Depends. If you are using an Intel processor, probably. If you are using a Cyrix (like me), then it won't. There is a note in the readme file about this. Hopefully, either Sierra or Rendition is working on this although no one from those companies have said anything here. -- Jim Grayson Air Traffic Control Specialist - Automation - Memphis ARTCC

is where the conflict seems to be creeping in. I'm using a Cyrix 586-120 and in VGA the T2 drives well, but in SVGA, there is quite a bit of wobbly driving. Dave Henrie