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If Sierra can't do it NASCAR should

5 posts by 5 people · 17 Dec 1996 - 31 Dec 1996

Justin Rya 17 Dec 1996#348959
If for whatever reason Sierra can't have it's own dial-up 800 number network similar to the Hawaii Beta concept, NASCAR should take what has been done and create the NRL over a Flat Monthly fee based site with no ISP cost, no "TEN" cost, just NASCAR making the profits and running the league. Am I crazy
Jim Sokolo 17 Dec 1996#348960
> If for whatever reason Sierra can't have it's own dial-up 800 number > network similar to the Hawaii Beta concept, NASCAR should take what has > been done and create the NRL over a Flat Monthly fee based site with no ISP > cost, no "TEN" cost, just NASCAR making the profits and running the league. > Am I crazy Sierra could do that in theory, but the cheapest 800 service I've heard of is still close to $6 an hour, which someone's gotta pay if anyone is to make a profit... TEN is cheaper than a direct 800 call. ---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus
: If for whatever reason Sierra can't have it's own dial-up 800 number : network similar to the Hawaii Beta concept, NASCAR should take what has : been done and create the NRL over a Flat Monthly fee based site with no ISP : cost, no "TEN" cost, just NASCAR making the profits and running the league. : Maybe NASCAR could, but we don't have the time for them to start from the ground floor and create the perfect system. Here is a little history to help us keep certain things in perspective. These 2 messages were culled from r.a.s. this summer: ------------------ editted messages from r.a.s. via dejanews --------- Subject: Re: Hawaii 800 #? Date: 1996/06/25 INN was sold to AT&T almost 2 years ago. Regardless, INN utilizes a high latency network. Ironically, even though INN is owned by AT&T, until very recently, they were using SprintNet for their data network! NRL will not work with latencies above 250 millisenconds (1/4 of a second). I've posted a lot of stuff up here about low latency so I won't repeat it. Bottom line, INN can not deliver the low latency we need. Ed Martin Producer, Series Director Subject: Re: Attn:Ed Martin NASCAR 2.0 AI Date: 1996/07/07 As for the 800 #, believe me, we have done a LOT of research on how much people are spending. There are some big problems with the 800 # idea. First, if we were to do it, we couldn't charge a flat fee. Given what we've found, people will spend tons of time online when it's "free"/flat fee. In order to not lose money, we'd have to bill by the hour/minute. Second, we do not have a billing system, and it would cost a lot to build one. We were part of the way down the line with it when Sierra acquired us, but we put it on hold, because... third, Sierra has a non-compete agreement with AT&T. Sierra used to own the Imaginiation network (INN). When Sierra sold it to AT&T, part of the agreement was a non-compete that precludes us from billing for a proprietary service like Hawaii. Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc. --------------- end editted messages from r.a.s. via dejanews --------- -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
James Albe 30 Dec 1996#350874
I adgree with you. Exactly. Alex "YoungGun"-Hawaii handle >If for whatever reason Sierra can't have it's own dial-up 800 number >network similar to the Hawaii Beta concept, NASCAR should take what has >been done and create the NRL over a Flat Monthly fee based site with no ISP >cost, no "TEN" cost, just NASCAR making the profits and running the league. >Am I crazy
Joel Putt 31 Dec 1996#351074
Quoted text (17 lines)> I adgree with you. Exactly. > Alex > "YoungGun"-Hawaii handle > >If for whatever reason Sierra can't have it's own dial-up 800 number > >network similar to the Hawaii Beta concept, NASCAR should take what has > >been done and create the NRL over a Flat Monthly fee based site with no > ISP > >cost, no "TEN" cost, just NASCAR making the profits and running the > league. > >Am I crazy
best idea iv heard on here i agree. everyone go to the nascar page and email nascar tell them about this guys idea?agreed?. www.nascar.com if nascar is reading this . nascar your in this thing with papy so u should help out . i know whatever u wanted or felt like u wanted to do u could so help out ok? or put a good word in for us at papy.?

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