for Ed or Adam papysupport of stealth 3d cards

No they will not, as the Rendition version is incompatible with any other 3D card. They would have to make a Virge port for the Diamond card (which will not be happening). Even if such a port was made, it would look better than the standard version, but it would most likely be slower then the regular version. The current Virge cards (like your Diamond) are not viable 3D solutions. -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

Adam, Will papy be putting out a version of the nr2 to run in rendition mode with the stealth 2000 3d card any time in the future. thank you Joel Guy ps, you all did a great job on nascar2 ,just wish the walls between track and pits were not there like at real tracks. maybe in next version or fix Have a Merrry Christmas

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> > Adam, Will papy be putting out a version of the nr2 to run in rendition mode > > with the stealth 2000 3d card any time in the future. > > thank you > > Joel Guy > > ps, you all did a great job on nascar2 ,just wish the walls between track and > > pits were not there like at real tracks. maybe in next version or fix > > Have a Merrry Christmas > > The walls are there for a purpose. To keep people from cheating. > > And you must be one of those people because there is NO OTHER! > > reason to not want a wall. > > and you have a Merry Christmas too!!

How about for the sake of reality? No wall, equals realism; last time I checked that's what simulations were doing, simulating reality. Not a big deal, but maybe to someone it is. I saw the Papyrus Daytona track for N1 at Daytona USA theme park and it was awesomely real; ie. no wall. Just my $.02 Mike -- ___ _ ____ _____ ____ ____ _____ | \ | | / _ \| ___| / ___| / _ \| __ \ | \ | || | | || |___ | | | | | || |__| | | |\ \| || |_| ||___ || | | |_| || _ / | | \ || _ | ___| || |___ | _ || | \ \ |_| \__||_| |_||_____| \____||_| |_||_| \_\ Go fast, Turn left!

What makes them "not viable 3D solutions."? Mike Custer

They are just too slow at 3D to be of any real use as compared to the second generation accelerators like the Rendition and 3Dfx cards. Computer *** World rates the Diamond as having "so-so 3D performance". PC Computing says the "Diamond is a ViRGE-based board that offers the carefully worded claim of 'outrageously fast graphicsplus 3-D!' The Stealth does indeed deliver top 2-D graphics performance, ... Its average 3-D acceleration may disappoint those who assume the 'plus 3-D' part will also be of the 'outrageously fast' variety". Ask around in the comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video newsgroup for some opinions of the current Virge cards. -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

There are other ways to prevent cheating. Maybe once Papyrus figures out the best way to do this without physical barriers, they will return the tracks to their more authentic look. I, for one, don't mind the walls. I understand why they are there. I do hope they will eventually be gone. David Martin