N2 Tally Blocking!!

: > One of the best features in Nas2 is at Talledega!!!. The slower cars : > that blocked the main groove,and drove super low to keep faster cars : > from passing (on hawaii) will now just get the doors blown off. : > #1) The config of the tri-oval. #2) You lose very little speed : > (if any) going high in the turns!!,the blockin` days are over for : > those guys. THANKS PAPYRUS!!!!!! Maybe the lappers in the low groove at dega were not there to block but because it's where they should be. Do you really want the slow pokes criss crossing the track say 3 or four times to satisfy the drivers who cannot drive more than the preferred groove? Most accidents happen from lappers who try to move out of 'the groove' for the fast guys. A low groove predictable lapper is the best kind. Learn to appreciate it. Now back to the N2 talk, Matt

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> : > One of the best features in Nas2 is at Talledega!!!. The slower cars > : > that blocked the main groove,and drove super low to keep faster cars > : > from passing (on hawaii) will now just get the doors blown off. > : > #1) The config of the tri-oval. #2) You lose very little speed > : > (if any) going high in the turns!!,the blockin` days are over for > : > those guys. THANKS PAPYRUS!!!!!! > Maybe the lappers in the low groove at dega were not there to block > but because it's where they should be. Do you really want the slow pokes > criss crossing the track say 3 or four times to satisfy the drivers who > cannot drive more than the preferred groove? Most accidents happen from > lappers who try to move out of 'the groove' for the fast guys. A low > groove predictable lapper is the best kind. Learn to appreciate it. > Now back to the N2 talk, > Matt

At Talladega, slow cars should be higher on the track. Since there is 3 lines all the way around now there is no reason for them to block anyone, however I disagree with the "blocking days are over" statement. You still can't pass on the outside at any NCR2 track without an AI putting you in the wall. You have to be alongside the AI before they give you the room. If you have the momentum but aren't actually alongside them, you will have to lift and/or dive to the inside to make the pass. On many tracks, it is very important to keep your momentum. Talladega is one of those tracks. I realize that this doesn't have a straightforward solution. The AI have blind spots too. But that's what spotters are for. They fill in the information that the driver can not get for itself. This information needs to be dynamic. Using speed differentials, they can predict collision courses probably better than reallife spotters. David Martin

I disagree with this. :) I can pass any of the AI cars on the outside. It is quite easy..just keep your line, stay put and they WILL give in as you float up to the wall and they will fall back behind you. -- Lannie Schafroth

:>>You still can't pass on the outside at any NCR2 track without an AI :>>putting you in the wall. You have to be alongside the AI before they :> :>I disagree with this. :) I can pass any of the AI cars on the outside. :>It is quite easy..just keep your line, stay put and they WILL give in :>as you float up to the wall and they will fall back behind you. Wrong. /*===================================================*/ There are three types of lies... lies, damn lies, and press releases. John Simmons (Redneck Techno-Biker) http://www2.connectnet.com/~jms/ /*===================================================*/

: > Maybe the lappers in the low groove at dega were not there to block : > but because it's where they should be. Do you really want the slow pokes : > criss crossing the track say 3 or four times to satisfy the drivers who : > {....} : At Talladega, slow cars should be higher on the track. Since there is 3 : lines all the way around now there is no reason for them to block : anyone, : however I disagree with the "blocking days are over" statement. I was talking about NCR1, but I still disagree. Lappers should be low in the flat and should be expected to be. The reason is because the pits are on the inside of the track. A well designed track will allow for an inside flat for those coming up to speed and slowing to get to the pits. If someone wants to get to the pits they should get low on turns 3 to 4 as they make their approach. Not dive in from the top lane, this causes accidents. In NCR1 this happened to be in the place where drivers wanted to be for the fastest lap speeds, too bad for them and who ever they take out. If they are good enough to be racing with real people than they should be good enough to take a slightly different line to get around the pitters, and yes, actually let up and loose time if need be, that's just clean racin. Same goes for turns 1 & 2 where the slow pokes may also be just out of the pits gaining speed. Luckily the new dega in NCR2 is better designed so that the racing groove is out from the flat a bit more (at least as my style dictates.) so this may not be as much of a problem. Bottom line is that having the slow pokes streak across traffic to get in to the pits or after getting out of the pits is not only silly but harmful to other driver's ratings. Also since predictability is the most important thing for a lapper to have, the inside lane is most logical since there would be no times when the lapper would have to make the desicion to do the track crossing when pitting or exiting the pits. Ever come up on a lapper who is low or in the middle and appears to tend low, causing you to go high, then the lapper jumps outside (just to get out of the racing groove) right in front of you? It happens alot, and the other way round as well. If the lapper was inside and stays there, there are no desicions to make, no risks to take. Maybe you have to let up on the gas to pass a little higher in a turn, but a least all survive. This "blocking" idea seems to be getting confused with racing with traffic. Only when you are clear on the sides and confident of the guy(s) ahead of you do you expect to do dega with 'no lift'. I'm I bonkers for thinking this way? Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems the best way to keep accidents down. Matt

You're not bonkers, just a smart racer. If you watch just about any race, slow or damaged cars will run the low line around the track and the faster cars will have to pass on the outside. ChrisP

says... Schafrot >:>>You still can't pass on the outside at any NCR2 track without an AI >:>>putting you in the wall. You have to be alongside the AI before they >:> >:>I disagree with this. :) I can pass any of the AI cars on the outside. >:>It is quite easy..just keep your line, stay put and they WILL give in >:>as you float up to the wall and they will fall back behind you. >Wrong. Wrong to your wrong! :) It does work and works almost every time for me. I could do it and send you a replay if you like. -- Lannie Schafroth