N2 BUG Report #1

#1 Run Nascar 2 from Win95...IE 3.0 will not work after this. Something gets corrupted in IE 3.0 when I tried to run N2 from under Win95. I know, I know, why would I want to do this? I tried, because NRL will be run under Win95. Deleting and re-installing IE 3.0 did not work. I had to backup(thankfully I have one) from tape and it worked. I did this twice, and each time IE 3.0 would not work. I have heard from others about having the same problem. Anyone else have this problem? -- http://www.netins.net/showcase/mpete Nascar..Weather..Photo Gallery...OnNetCameras..Oddities..and more.. Stop on by, what can it hurt?

<<I got it to work by just re-installing Internet Explorer 3.01 over top of the non-functioning version. Still, this is a pretty huge bug to have slipped by the Beta testers. No finger pointing or anything, but how could this have been overlooked? Does all of Papyrus use Netscape?>> Just as another voice to be heard, I have to admit that I played the N2 demo 100% from Win95 and have been playing the full version of the game flawlessly from Win95 for the last two days. While I prefer Netscape, I do have Internet Explorer 3.01 and have tried it out just to make sure. I have had no problems with IE after installing and playing N2 from/in Win95 and have even tried using it again before making this post (from Netscape's news reader... heh, heh) just to again make sure. No problems have been found. Nick -------------------------------------------------------------- #6 & #94 in the quest for the Cup! My home away from home... http://www.mindspring.com/~ntotoro/ --------------------------------------------------------------

I got it to work by just re-installing Internet Explorer 3.01 over top of the non-functioning version. Still, this is a pretty huge bug to have slipped by the Beta testers. No finger pointing or anything, but how could this have been overlooked? Does all of Papyrus use Netscape? -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

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>#1 Run Nascar 2 from Win95...IE 3.0 will not work after this. >Something gets corrupted in IE 3.0 when I tried to run N2 from under >Win95. I know, I know, why would I want to do this? I tried, because NRL >will be run under Win95. >Deleting and re-installing IE 3.0 did not work. I had to >backup(thankfully I have one) from tape and it worked. >I did this twice, and each time IE 3.0 would not work. I have heard from >others about having the same problem. >Anyone else have this problem?

I don't know if I would call that a bug. I would call that a blessing!!!

How did you install Nascar2, via Win95 or DOS? -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

> #1 Run Nascar 2 from Win95...IE 3.0 will not work after this. > Something gets corrupted in IE 3.0 when I tried to run N2 from under > Win95. I know, I know, why would I want to do this? I tried, because NRL > will be run under Win95. OK... THat is a good reason to run N2 for Win95 :-) How about un-installing from the ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS application in the Win95 CONTROL PANEL? So you are saying that it does no good to "fix" this, as every time you run N2 from WIN95 it will mess up IE3.0 again. Right? It will work if you run N2 from a DOS re-boot right? It sounds like Papyrus does not use IE3.0 on their machines, or they have a sobatour who is a Netscape lover :-) This is almost as good as the old Cyrix chip & WinNT4.0 problem. With older versions of some Cyrix chips, WinNT4.0 would disable the cache, making the Cyrix about 20-30% slower :-)

I deleted MSIE in the add delete part of win 95 and then I downloaded version 3.01 and installed it and it seems to be working fine now and I have played N2 out of windows since I have installed it and it is still working

(Michael Petersen) writes: > > #1 Run Nascar 2 from Win95...IE 3.0 will not work after this. > > Something gets corrupted in IE 3.0 when I tried to run N2 from under > > Win95. I know, I know, why would I want to do this? I tried, because NRL

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> > will be run under Win95. > OK... THat is a good reason to run N2 for Win95 :-) > > Deleting and re-installing IE 3.0 did not work. I had to > > backup(thankfully I have one) from tape and it worked. > How about un-installing from the ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS application in the > Win95 CONTROL PANEL? > > I did this twice, and each time IE 3.0 would not work. I have heard

from > > others about having the same problem. > So you are saying that it does no good to "fix" this, as every time you run > N2 from WIN95 it will mess up IE3.0 again. Right? It will work if you run N2 > from a DOS re-boot right? > It sounds like Papyrus does not use IE3.0 on their machines, or they have > a sobatour who is a Netscape lover :-) This is almost as good as the old > Cyrix chip & WinNT4.0 problem. With older versions of some Cyrix chips, > WinNT4.0 would disable the cache, making the Cyrix about 20-30% slower IE 3.01 will reinstall, IE 3.0 would not. Once I used 3.01 everything works. Just won't try it through win95 again. -- http://www.netins.net/showcase/mpete Nascar..Weather..Photo Gallery...OnNetCameras..Oddities..and more.. Stop on by, what can it hurt?

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> I got it to work by just re-installing Internet Explorer 3.01 over top > of the non-functioning version. Still, this is a pretty huge bug to > have slipped by the Beta testers. No finger pointing or anything, but > how could this have been overlooked? Does all of Papyrus use Netscape? > -- > Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences > Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/ > > #1 Run Nascar 2 from Win95...IE 3.0 will not work after this. > > Something gets corrupted in IE 3.0 when I tried to run N2 from under > > Win95. I know, I know, why would I want to do this? I tried, because > NRL > > will be run under Win95. > > Deleting and re-installing IE 3.0 did not work. I had to > > backup(thankfully I have one) from tape and it worked. > > I did this twice, and each time IE 3.0 would not work. I have heard > from > > others about having the same problem.

Sounds like a feature to me... <g>

The problem with the bug in Internet Explorerer is a result of the Sierra install. There is a fix for this in development and is almost ready for release. Adam Papyrus

> The problem with the bug in Internet Explorerer is a result of the Sierra > install. There is a fix for this in development and is almost ready for > release. > Adam > Papyrus Has anyone ever seen this level of news group from any other vendor? -- Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA RaceTime utility program for Nascar1/Indycar2. http://www.metronet.com/~cstuart/

Adam, From what you're saying, this looks like a Sierra problem, so this isn't an attempt at flaming you or Papy <g> _However_, I find it utterly incredible that a major software house can release software that ***s up the major free browser. Really, really strange that no-one did any general compatibility testing..... Cheers, Richard

>> The problem with the bug in Internet Explorerer is a result of the Sierra >> install. There is a fix for this in development and is almost ready for >> release. >> Adam >> Papyrus >Has anyone ever seen this level of news group from any other vendor? Chuck, Papyrus is the ONLY game company I have seen that supports it's users like this. Good work Papyrus! Now, if I could only get a copy of N2. :( Nobody in Des Moines, Iowa has it... Oh well...I'll keep waiting.. -- Lannie Schafroth

I got a question for you. Can you run Season on your NASCAR2? Every time I try to my computer either locks up or goes hay wire and scrambels the picture up. Any help would be welcomed.

: It sounds like Papyrus does not use IE3.0 on their machines, or they have : a sobatour who is a Netscape lover :-) This is almost as good as the old : Cyrix chip & WinNT4.0 problem. With older versions of some Cyrix chips, : WinNT4.0 would disable the cache, making the Cyrix about 20-30% slower :-) Or it means that Microsoft is using "hidden" codes in Win95 for their products that the rest of the software industry aren't being told about. It's very possible that Papyrus/Sierra followed all of the coding rules provided them by Microsoft, but because IE3.0 uses "undocumented" code it get's broken. It's happened to other software developers over the years, looks like it ain't gonna stop soon. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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> : It sounds like Papyrus does not use IE3.0 on their machines, or they have > : a sobatour who is a Netscape lover :-) This is almost as good as the old > : Cyrix chip & WinNT4.0 problem. With older versions of some Cyrix chips, > : WinNT4.0 would disable the cache, making the Cyrix about 20-30% slower :-) > Or it means that Microsoft is using "hidden" codes in Win95 for their > products that the rest of the software industry aren't being told about. > It's very possible that Papyrus/Sierra followed all of the coding rules > provided them by Microsoft, but because IE3.0 uses "undocumented" code > it get's broken. It's happened to other software developers over the > years, looks like it ain't gonna stop soon. > -- > **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

On my system (running Win95 and Netscape 3.01 Gold) I couldn't access the internet via Dial up adapter after installing N2/Ten. I replaced Netscape... No Go. Tried "Make a New Connection" in Dial up Networking... No Go.. While Looking at the properties of Network Neighborhood it showed 2 Dialup adapters. I deleted one, and verified the networking info, and now it works again. I now remember seeing something while installing Ten about allowing onle one Dialup Adapter. So Blame it on Ten..... (might as well...) Mike