T2 Suction Cups

Anyone else have the problem that the suction cups on the bottom of the T2 steering wheel don't hold down the back of the sterring assembly ??? I have even moistened the suction cups, but they still won't stick to my wooden computer desk. I am sorely tempted to just duct-tape the back of the thing down. Nothing worse than being in the middle of a race and tugging down on the wheel too much and feeling it wobble downward !!! Anyone have any other ideas on how to secure the back of the stering assembly ??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This space intentionally left blank

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> Anyone else have the problem that the suction cups on the bottom of > the T2 steering wheel don't hold down the back of the sterring > assembly ??? > Anyone have any other ideas on how to secure the back of the stering > assembly ??? > What I've done to mine was to use velcro. I got mine from work, but I

believe that 3M makes it. I found the bottom screws to be a pain to continuously tighten/loosen, as I don't want the wheel permanently attached to the front of my desk (I use my computer for things other than racing). I replaced the bottom clamps with a strip of velcro, one attached to the front of my desk, and one to the wheel itself. It works great, as long as you don't mind adhering the velro to your desk. Hope this helps, -Matt

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>> Anyone have any other ideas on how to secure the back of the stering >> assembly ??? >> What I've done to mine was to use velcro. I got mine from work, but I >believe that 3M makes it. I found the bottom screws to be a pain to >continuously tighten/loosen, as I don't want the wheel permanently >attached to the front of my desk (I use my computer for things other than >racing). I replaced the bottom clamps with a strip of velcro, one >attached to the front of my desk, and one to the wheel itself. It works >great, as long as you don't mind adhering the velro to your desk.

I was considering that exact thing (as well as Velcroing the bottom of the pedals and my hard-plastic chair roller mat). I was just curious if there were any other possibilities. Thanks for your feedback. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This space intentionally left blank

> I am sorely tempted to just duct-tape the back of the thing down. Duct tape is the way to go depending on how "supportive" your wife is. :) Tape it from underneath too, it will help get rid of the wobble! -- vetteracer (on hawaii)

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> I was considering that exact thing (as well as Velcroing the bottom of > the pedals and my hard-plastic chair roller mat). I was just curious > if there were any other possibilities. > Thanks for your feedback. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This space intentionally left blank

I had a similar problem. I have a Bush computer desk with a wooden slide out keyboard shelf. The clamps would not reach al the way under the desk. The wheel kept sliding around when I rigged up spacers and clamped it to the keyboard shelf. I wound up buying some 1/4-20 threaded rod, plastic thumb knobs, and some 1/4-20 nuts that hammer into wood. I then cut a 1"x6" (1x6) piece of wood to fit across my slide out keyboard shelf, which is flat on top. This hangs off each end by about 1-1/2". I drilled a hole in each end for the nuts, and hammered them in. I then screwed a small piece (about 1-1/2" long) of 1x6 under the nuts at each end just wide enough apart to straddle the keyboard shelf. Of course I drilled a hole in each small piece where the threaded rod could pass through. This holds the nuts from loosening and coming out as well as stabelizes the 1x6 from side to side. I loctited the thumb knobs onto one end of each of the two pieces of threaded rod. I set the 1x6 on top of the keyboard shelf, as far forward as possible. I then slipped the plastic clamp brackets that came with the T2 over the threaded studs and threaded these up through the 1x6. I had to cut some short pieces of plastic tubing to use as spacers similar to the two sizes supplied with the T2 but a little longer. I then marked the rods so I could cut them off to keep them from sticking up through the 1x6. With the clamps in place, this 1x6 was now solidly mounted to the shelf. I removed the top cover of the T2. I then set the T2 on top of this 1x6 and positioned it so the plastic drop down on the front of the T2 rests back against the front of the keyboard shelf. The thickness of the 1x6 was just right to raise the wide bottom area of the T2 above the front lip of the shelf. I then marked four locations and drilled small holes through the T2 base but not the 1x6. I screwed the T2 down to the 1x6 using these holes. Now how to get the cover back on, since the screws come up from the bottom which has the 1x6 attached? I marked these hole through the base on the 1x6, took the base off, took the 1x6 off the desk, drilled holes at the marks large enough for the***driver to fit through, and reassembled everything. I know this sounds complicated. It was really cheap and fairly simple. About 3 hours did it. I bought everything at the hardware for about $10. The clamps are now at about the center of the wheel base (in the front to back direction) instead of at the very front. I don't need the suction cups. You would have to turn the desk over to move this setup while driving! It is rock solid. It is also very easy to loosen and remove with no sign it was ever attached. I think the T2 mounting was really Mickey Mouse to start with. My brother has trouble with his sliding around all the time. The little *** bumpers that came with the T2 slid off the pedal base the first day I had it. I screwed four furniture leg coasters, the kind with little spikes for carpet, onto the bottom of a 2 foot long 1x12 and mounted the pedals to this. I put the pedal base at the front of this 1x12 so the pedals would no longer tip backward. No more walking away from me while I'm driving! I really don't expect anyone else to do this. It just sounds so much harder than it really is. But, with my desk configuration, it works great. Tony Joy

I came up with an effective low tech solution. I have the T1 wheel, I bought an 8" x 14" piece of plexiglass. The suction cups stick very well to the plexiglass, and the large surface area provides good stability to the wheel. The combined unit is then just placed on the edge of the desk when I want to race. It is quite stable, only moving a little if I saw the wheel too ***ly. Of course, a larger sheet of plexiglass would give you a better platform., maybe 2" longer in both dimensions. Also, I put the keyboard on the leading edge of the plexiglass, helping to anchor the assembly in place. Dave Costa

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>Anyone else have the problem that the suction cups on the bottom of >the T2 steering wheel don't hold down the back of the sterring >assembly ??? >I have even moistened the suction cups, but they still won't stick to >my wooden computer desk. >I am sorely tempted to just duct-tape the back of the thing down. >Nothing worse than being in the middle of a race and tugging down on >the wheel too much and feeling it wobble downward !!! >Anyone have any other ideas on how to secure the back of the stering >assembly ??? >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This space intentionally left blank

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>Subject: T2 Suction Cups >Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:25:22 GMT >Anyone else have the problem that the suction cups on the bottom of >the T2 steering wheel don't hold down the back of the sterring >assembly ??? >I have even moistened the suction cups, but they still won't stick to >my wooden computer desk. >I am sorely tempted to just duct-tape the back of the thing down. >Nothing worse than being in the middle of a race and tugging down on >the wheel too much and feeling it wobble downward !!! >Anyone have any other ideas on how to secure the back of the stering >assembly ??? >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This space intentionally left blank

Hi David! I have the solution for you; actually it was my opponent who first fixed it: Get a nice 30 by 40 cm stiff piece of wood, with painted, smooth surfaces. I don`t know what the material is called in English, but you can find it in lots of cheap furniture; closets etc. anyway, you clean the plate and the cups with ***, and stick the T2 to the plate. You may need to moisten the cups. Try pulling and pushing on it, sort of rocking it until it sticks. Then get a couple of small carpenters vises, or whatever they are called, and***the plate onto your desk. This way you will also move the T2 further away from your desks edge, making more room for the screen. I have raced a zillion hours with this setup, and the T2 has never broken loose. Even the neighbours kids have tried to give me a cardiac by really racing the T2. Hope this helps, I`m not very good at drawing with letters.... Matthew, Norway.

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>>Subject: T2 Suction Cups >>Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:25:22 GMT >>Anyone else have the problem that the suction cups on the bottom of >>the T2 steering wheel don't hold down the back of the sterring >>assembly ??? >>I have even moistened the suction cups, but they still won't stick to >>my wooden computer desk. >>I am sorely tempted to just duct-tape the back of the thing down. >>Nothing worse than being in the middle of a race and tugging down on >>the wheel too much and feeling it wobble downward !!! >>Anyone have any other ideas on how to secure the back of the stering >>assembly ??? >>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>This space intentionally left blank >Hi David! I have the solution for you; actually it was my opponent who first >fixed it: Get a nice 30 by 40 cm stiff piece of wood, with painted, smooth >surfaces. I don`t know what the material is called in English, but you can >find it in lots of cheap furniture; closets etc. anyway, you clean the plate >and the cups with ***, and stick the T2 to the plate. You may need to >moisten the cups. Try pulling and pushing on it, sort of rocking it until it >sticks. Then get a couple of small carpenters vises, or whatever they are >called, and***the plate onto your desk. This way you will also move the T2 >further away from your desks edge, making more room for the screen. I have >raced a zillion hours with this setup, and the T2 has never broken loose. Even >the neighbours kids have tried to give me a cardiac by really racing the T2. >Hope this helps, I`m not very good at drawing with letters.... >Matthew, Norway.

I had the same problem with my new GP1 wheel, just put a wide sticky tape onto my DESK, subito the suction cups stick. Erich.