I'm sure some of you noticed a few days ago on OLR, you had to
download a new .cab file before entering the arena. The reason why I
kept quite on explaining what the upgrade does; because we have
installed a Cheat Detection on OLR. I wanted to see who was being a
"bad boy" and sure enough I did catch a few people :)
on OLR, I will say that we take cheating on our servers a serious
issue. The way our cheat detection system is setup, there is no way
somebody can give me an excuse they didn't cheat. We have spent some
considerable amount of research and funds to get this project
completed. Even though we have completed and have an Anti-Cheat system
in place, we are still continuing to stay up with the times and keep
this our top priority to have the most robust system in place.
Here are the ground rules. If you run a league on OLR, please email me
the name of your league, your screen name and email address. On
Flashpoint Racing Series, there is no need. I have all the CRS
information for Flashpoint. If you run a non-Flashpoint league on OLR,
I need you to email me ASAP. Once I catch a driver cheating on OLR,
you will be notified, as well as the driver who attempted to cheat.
If you are a basic, standard, or premium member and get caught
cheating, then expect to receive an immediate 30 day suspension. Your
admin of all leagues you run on OLR will also be notified that you
have been suspended from OLR for 30 days. If you get caught a 2nd
time, then expect your screen name to be permanently deleted from OLR.
On free members who race on OLR, if you are caught cheating, you can
expect me to delete your screen name from OLR and will never be able
to use it again.
As you see, we are taking this very serious and I will always be
watching. A few members have already been contacted and was pretty
surprised I knew to the exact second when they attempted. Also note,
once you are caught cheating, the system doesn't disconnect you. We
tried running that, but it was causing latency issues. It can be
really embarrassing if you are caught cheating on OLR and winning your
race, only to have all of your points revoked and suspended for 30
days.
I want to thank all of you for being patient and feel this will ensure
a level playing field on OLR, and knowing the drivers racing next to
you are legit. I will also say in the past few days, I was very
pleased; because many of the drivers that people thought were
cheating, was in fact not cheating, but were good; because they have
put the effort by practicing.
Joe Lomas
President
Onlineracin.com,Inc.
http://onlineracin.com
We Provide Web Hosting Solutions
http://frshosting.com
[email hidden] (Joe Lomas) wrote in
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Good luck with your efforts Joe.
I am confident that somebody will find a way around your policing, but I
hope you do suceed in limiting cheating. Perhaps a 'Wall of Shame' website
could be created.
And maybe the online guys at (new)Papyrus will emulate your commitment
to non-cheating.
Good intentions should be rewarded.
dave henrie
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> I want to thank all of you for being patient and feel this will ensure > a level playing field on OLR, and knowing the drivers racing next to > you are legit. I will also say in the past few days, I was very > pleased; because many of the drivers that people thought were > cheating, was in fact not cheating, but were good; because they have > put the effort by practicing. > > Joe Lomas > President > Onlineracin.com,Inc. > http://onlineracin.com > We Provide Web Hosting Solutions > http://frshosting.com >Is this anti cheat system something that can be purchased from OLR or shared
with other race series Joe?
Mitch
"Joe Lomas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I'm sure some of you noticed a few days ago on OLR, you had to > download a new .cab file before entering the arena. The reason why I > kept quite on explaining what the upgrade does; because we have > installed a Cheat Detection on OLR. I wanted to see who was being a > "bad boy" and sure enough I did catch a few people :) > > on OLR, I will say that we take cheating on our servers a serious > issue. The way our cheat detection system is setup, there is no way > somebody can give me an excuse they didn't cheat. We have spent some > considerable amount of research and funds to get this project > completed. Even though we have completed and have an Anti-Cheat system > in place, we are still continuing to stay up with the times and keep > this our top priority to have the most robust system in place. > > Here are the ground rules. If you run a league on OLR, please email me > the name of your league, your screen name and email address. On > Flashpoint Racing Series, there is no need. I have all the CRS > information for Flashpoint. If you run a non-Flashpoint league on OLR, > I need you to email me ASAP. Once I catch a driver cheating on OLR, > you will be notified, as well as the driver who attempted to cheat. > > If you are a basic, standard, or premium member and get caught > cheating, then expect to receive an immediate 30 day suspension. Your > admin of all leagues you run on OLR will also be notified that you > have been suspended from OLR for 30 days. If you get caught a 2nd > time, then expect your screen name to be permanently deleted from OLR. > On free members who race on OLR, if you are caught cheating, you can > expect me to delete your screen name from OLR and will never be able > to use it again. > > As you see, we are taking this very serious and I will always be > watching. A few members have already been contacted and was pretty > surprised I knew to the exact second when they attempted. Also note, > once you are caught cheating, the system doesn't disconnect you. We > tried running that, but it was causing latency issues. It can be > really embarrassing if you are caught cheating on OLR and winning your > race, only to have all of your points revoked and suspended for 30 > days. > > I want to thank all of you for being patient and feel this will ensure > a level playing field on OLR, and knowing the drivers racing next to > you are legit. I will also say in the past few days, I was very > pleased; because many of the drivers that people thought were > cheating, was in fact not cheating, but were good; because they have > put the effort by practicing. > > Joe Lomas > President > Onlineracin.com,Inc. > http://onlineracin.com > We Provide Web Hosting Solutions > http://frshosting.com"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<QwcKc.11486$[email hidden]>...
If I was OLR I would not sell the software . It gives OLR a advantage
over other server out fits . Also if this software works good , It
would make allot of sence to move your leagues to OLR . The have a
great price structure and the fact that a basic member can set up a
server 24/7 to practice for there league races makes OLR a real good
choice .
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> Is this anti cheat system something that can be purchased from OLR or shared > with other race series Joe? > > Mitch > > > "Joe Lomas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I'm sure some of you noticed a few days ago on OLR, you had to > > download a new .cab file before entering the arena. The reason why I > > kept quite on explaining what the upgrade does; because we have > > installed a Cheat Detection on OLR. I wanted to see who was being a > > "bad boy" and sure enough I did catch a few people :) > > > > on OLR, I will say that we take cheating on our servers a serious > > issue. The way our cheat detection system is setup, there is no way > > somebody can give me an excuse they didn't cheat. We have spent some > > considerable amount of research and funds to get this project > > completed. Even though we have completed and have an Anti-Cheat system > > in place, we are still continuing to stay up with the times and keep > > this our top priority to have the most robust system in place. > > > > Here are the ground rules. If you run a league on OLR, please email me > > the name of your league, your screen name and email address. On > > Flashpoint Racing Series, there is no need. I have all the CRS > > information for Flashpoint. If you run a non-Flashpoint league on OLR, > > I need you to email me ASAP. Once I catch a driver cheating on OLR, > > you will be notified, as well as the driver who attempted to cheat. > > > > If you are a basic, standard, or premium member and get caught > > cheating, then expect to receive an immediate 30 day suspension. Your > > admin of all leagues you run on OLR will also be notified that you > > have been suspended from OLR for 30 days. If you get caught a 2nd > > time, then expect your screen name to be permanently deleted from OLR. > > On free members who race on OLR, if you are caught cheating, you can > > expect me to delete your screen name from OLR and will never be able > > to use it again. > > > > As you see, we are taking this very serious and I will always be > > watching. A few members have already been contacted and was pretty > > surprised I knew to the exact second when they attempted. Also note, > > once you are caught cheating, the system doesn't disconnect you. We > > tried running that, but it was causing latency issues. It can be > > really embarrassing if you are caught cheating on OLR and winning your > > race, only to have all of your points revoked and suspended for 30 > > days. > > > > I want to thank all of you for being patient and feel this will ensure > > a level playing field on OLR, and knowing the drivers racing next to > > you are legit. I will also say in the past few days, I was very > > pleased; because many of the drivers that people thought were > > cheating, was in fact not cheating, but were good; because they have > > put the effort by practicing. > > > > Joe Lomas > > President > > Onlineracin.com,Inc. > > http://onlineracin.com > > We Provide Web Hosting Solutions > > http://frshosting.comWe spent close to 20K getting this setup. Also, the way we have the
cheat detection working, is not only on OLR, but on any game that is
being run on OLR. I might get DTR running again, but need to do more
testing. I can tell you that any game being run will get detected, if
it's on OLR. This is all embedded into the required files when you
first race on OLR.
To run on OLR pick up arena it doesn't cost you any money. If a
driver wants to run in the 50+ non-flashpoint leagues, it only cost
them 3.95 per month. If a league wants to race on OLR, the league
owner pays 13.95; because they have access to league tools to create
their own league, schedule, driver list and newsletter and no website
is required. Members only pay 3.95 per month and can join any league
from http://www.onlineracin.com/LeagueTool/LeagueFinder.asp and only
pay the same price. We have other higher plans, but it's not bad for
that amount.
From the responses I'm getting, it looks like I might have to get a
"wall of shame" created. Right now, the database gives me the
memberid number and I have to go to another page to see who that
member is. I think we can easily make a page to only show the screen
name. Once that screen name pops up, I might go as far as removing
that screen name from the database, so the cheater can never use that
screen name again, just losing their ranking and everything else.
We are looking to adding other games in the future. The cheat
detection took a long.... time in the making, but feel like it took a
huge burden off my back. It was really sad to see innocent drivers
get accused of cheating.
There was another remark made about people will always find ways.
That's true, which is why we are spending some bucks every month to do
constant research and always keeping up with times to keep the cheat
detection updated. I'm really happy we have it setup with all games
instead of just one. It makes adding additional games more easy and
know we have a tool to fight against cheaters instead of relying on
the maker of the game for cooperation.
Joe Lomas
President
Onlineracin.com,Inc.
http://onlineracin.com
We Provide Web Hosting Solutions
http://frshosting.com
> "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<QwcKc.11486$[email hidden]>...
> > Is this anti cheat system something that can be purchased from OLR or shared
> > with other race series Joe?
> >
> > Mitch
> >
I like everything right up till the $3.95 per user (times 15 users). That
adds up quickly for guys that only want to run a race or two per week. Id
love to see RASCAR on OLR but compared to our $20/mo I just cant justify it.
Mitch
"Joe Lomas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
news:<QwcKc.11486$[email hidden]>...
> > > Is this anti cheat system something that can be purchased from OLR orshared
> > > with other race series Joe?
> > >
> > > Mitch
> > >
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> We spent close to 20K getting this setup. Also, the way we have the > cheat detection working, is not only on OLR, but on any game that is > being run on OLR. I might get DTR running again, but need to do more > testing. I can tell you that any game being run will get detected, if > it's on OLR. This is all embedded into the required files when you > first race on OLR. > > To run on OLR pick up arena it doesn't cost you any money. If a > driver wants to run in the 50+ non-flashpoint leagues, it only cost > them 3.95 per month. If a league wants to race on OLR, the league > owner pays 13.95; because they have access to league tools to create > their own league, schedule, driver list and newsletter and no website > is required. Members only pay 3.95 per month and can join any league > from http://www.onlineracin.com/LeagueTool/LeagueFinder.asp and only > pay the same price. We have other higher plans, but it's not bad for > that amount. > > From the responses I'm getting, it looks like I might have to get a > "wall of shame" created. Right now, the database gives me the > memberid number and I have to go to another page to see who that > member is. I think we can easily make a page to only show the screen > name. Once that screen name pops up, I might go as far as removing > that screen name from the database, so the cheater can never use that > screen name again, just losing their ranking and everything else. > > We are looking to adding other games in the future. The cheat > detection took a long.... time in the making, but feel like it took a > huge burden off my back. It was really sad to see innocent drivers > get accused of cheating. > > There was another remark made about people will always find ways. > That's true, which is why we are spending some bucks every month to do > constant research and always keeping up with times to keep the cheat > detection updated. I'm really happy we have it setup with all games > instead of just one. It makes adding additional games more easy and > know we have a tool to fight against cheaters instead of relying on > the maker of the game for cooperation. > > Joe Lomas > President > Onlineracin.com,Inc. > http://onlineracin.com > We Provide Web Hosting Solutions > http://frshosting.com > > > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in messageI completely understand Mitch. OLR is not for everybody. If all 20
only race on RASCAR and free leagues and nothing else, then I can see
OLR would not be for them. If drivers are having to pay server dues
for separate leagues, then it can really add up. On OLR, a driver
only pays 3.95 per month and can race as much as 50 different leagues
without having to pay for any additional fees. If they want to run in
50+ non-fp leagues and 40+ Flashpoints leagues, then it's only 7.95
per month.
Joe Lomas
President
Onlineracin.com,Inc.
http://onlineracin.com
We Provide Web Hosting Solutions
http://frshosting.com
"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<wnvKc.93566$%[email hidden]>...
> I like everything right up till the $3.95 per user (times 15 users). That
> adds up quickly for guys that only want to run a race or two per week. Id
> love to see RASCAR on OLR but compared to our $20/mo I just cant justify it.
>
> Mitch
Per request of members that do race on OLR, I have modified the Terms
of Use for Onlineracin.com
We do not tolerate cheating in any form:
Onlineracin.com uses cheat detection software to determine if third
party software is running on any client machines that alters the
natural environment of the game. If such software is found, the
offending party is found to be in violation a first time, said party
will receive an immediate thirty day suspension from Onlineracin.com.
If a second offense is detected, the offending party's screen name,
statistics and race history will be permanently removed from
Onlineracin.com.
All violations (First & Second) will be available publicly via the
"wall of shame" list Offenders will be banned from Flashpoint Racing
Leagues and Onlineracin.com sanctioned events after the first offense.
Private league owners may ban drivers at their own discretion based on
the information provided by Onlineracin.com.
I think you should also post their telephone numbers, email addresses and
full names and addresses. Have it published in their local newspapers. Jump
start an IRS tax audit etc..
Ty
: O
Joe Lomas wrote:
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> I'm sure some of you noticed a few days ago on OLR, you had to > download a new .cab file before entering the arena. The reason why I > kept quite on explaining what the upgrade does; because we have > installed a Cheat Detection on OLR. I wanted to see who was being a > "bad boy" and sure enough I did catch a few people :) > > on OLR, I will say that we take cheating on our servers a serious > issue. The way our cheat detection system is setup, there is no way > somebody can give me an excuse they didn't cheat. We have spent some > considerable amount of research and funds to get this project > completed. Even though we have completed and have an Anti-Cheat system > in place, we are still continuing to stay up with the times and keep > this our top priority to have the most robust system in place. > > Here are the ground rules. If you run a league on OLR, please email me > the name of your league, your screen name and email address. On > Flashpoint Racing Series, there is no need. I have all the CRS > information for Flashpoint. If you run a non-Flashpoint league on OLR, > I need you to email me ASAP. Once I catch a driver cheating on OLR, > you will be notified, as well as the driver who attempted to cheat. > > If you are a basic, standard, or premium member and get caught > cheating, then expect to receive an immediate 30 day suspension. Your > admin of all leagues you run on OLR will also be notified that you > have been suspended from OLR for 30 days. If you get caught a 2nd > time, then expect your screen name to be permanently deleted from OLR. > On free members who race on OLR, if you are caught cheating, you can > expect me to delete your screen name from OLR and will never be able > to use it again. > > As you see, we are taking this very serious and I will always be > watching. A few members have already been contacted and was pretty > surprised I knew to the exact second when they attempted. Also note, > once you are caught cheating, the system doesn't disconnect you. We > tried running that, but it was causing latency issues. It can be > really embarrassing if you are caught cheating on OLR and winning your > race, only to have all of your points revoked and suspended for 30 > days. > > I want to thank all of you for being patient and feel this will ensure > a level playing field on OLR, and knowing the drivers racing next to > you are legit. I will also say in the past few days, I was very > pleased; because many of the drivers that people thought were > cheating, was in fact not cheating, but were good; because they have > put the effort by practicing. > > Joe Lomas > President > Onlineracin.com,Inc. > http://onlineracin.com > We Provide Web Hosting Solutions > http://frshosting.comTyrone Jackson <[email hidden]> wrote in
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I'm for full disclosure Ty. I think letting everyone know how and who
is important. For years we've had rumours about certain individuals
cheating. Now, if OLR can document the trangressions, we can all learn the
do's and don'ts of cheating. I'd rather be fully informed than just
rely on the online chats to hear suspicions of cheaters.
And...the REAL fast people can have any black cloud removed from
themselves. I don't race on OLR, so I'm speaking in theory, but I do know
cheating has been prevelant in the past, and I'm pretty sure it will
continue in some form in the future. But I applaud OLR for attempting to
give their PAYING CUSTOMERS real value.
dave henrie
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> I think you should also post their telephone numbers, email addresses > and full names and addresses. Have it published in their local > newspapers. Jump start an IRS tax audit etc.. > > Ty > : O >Giving full disclosure is not a good idea. Reason being, even free
members can race on OLR and you can put in any name you want when
creating screen names.
Also want to give you guys a heads up that we have corrected an
exploit on our OLR Cheat detection. People were trying to be creative
by launching a race, then closing the OLR Applet prior to entering the
game, thus bypassing the OLR cheat detection. We have made the
corrections on OLR, so even if you close the Race Arena, it will still
detect if you are running cheats on OLR.
In addition to this, it will add a process once you launch the game.
Once the game is launched, the driver would not be able to go back to
windows and terminate the process. If you are attempting to terminate
the cheat detection, I will be alerted, then you will be promptly
notified :) Once the game shuts down, then the cheat detection
process will terminate.
There are two separate reports that I will get. One, if somebody
tries to shut off the Cheat Detection, and the Second one is if
somebody is actually running a cheat program. The second report, I
will post screen names for those people who try to cheat on OLR for
all to see :)
Good news for Flashpoint Racing Series drivers. There is no need to
upload replays and results for cheat detection. Of course, if you are
in the top 3, you still need to send your results to your admin, and
save replays if somebody is filing a protest against you. But we no
longer require you to upload those files.
--
Joe Lomas
President
Onlineracin.com,Inc.
http://onlineracin.com
We Provide Web Hosting Solutions
http://frshosting.com
Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> Tyrone Jackson <[email hidden]> wrote in
> news:ufDLc.24621$[email hidden]:
>
> > I think you should also post their telephone numbers, email addresses
> > and full names and addresses. Have it published in their local
> > newspapers. Jump start an IRS tax audit etc..
> >
> > Ty
> > : O
> >
>
> I'm for full disclosure Ty. I think letting everyone know how and who
> is important. For years we've had rumours about certain individuals
> cheating. Now, if OLR can document the trangressions, we can all learn the
> do's and don'ts of cheating. I'd rather be fully informed than just
> rely on the online chats to hear suspicions of cheaters.
> And...the REAL fast people can have any black cloud removed from
> themselves. I don't race on OLR, so I'm speaking in theory, but I do know
> cheating has been prevelant in the past, and I'm pretty sure it will
> continue in some form in the future. But I applaud OLR for attempting to
> give their PAYING CUSTOMERS real value.
>
> dave henrie
Joe,
I created a screen name and was going to sign up, but for some reason the
Platinum, or high-end, or whatever the hell the name of the top package was
did not support credit cards.
Every other option did.
Any explanation for this ?
-Larry
"Joe Lomas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > I like everything right up till the $3.95 per user (times 15 users).That
> > adds up quickly for guys that only want to run a race or two per week.Id
> > love to see RASCAR on OLR but compared to our $20/mo I just cant justifyit.
> >
> > Mitch
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> I completely understand Mitch. OLR is not for everybody. If all 20 > only race on RASCAR and free leagues and nothing else, then I can see > OLR would not be for them. If drivers are having to pay server dues > for separate leagues, then it can really add up. On OLR, a driver > only pays 3.95 per month and can race as much as 50 different leagues > without having to pay for any additional fees. If they want to run in > 50+ non-fp leagues and 40+ Flashpoints leagues, then it's only 7.95 > per month. > > Joe Lomas > President > Onlineracin.com,Inc. > http://onlineracin.com > We Provide Web Hosting Solutions > http://frshosting.com > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in messageYou also have to be careful here. If a mistake IS ever made, whoo-boy!
-Larry
"Joe Lomas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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who
> > is important. For years we've had rumours about certain individuals
> > cheating. Now, if OLR can document the trangressions, we can all learnthe
> > do's and don'ts of cheating. I'd rather be fully informed than just
> > rely on the online chats to hear suspicions of cheaters.
> > And...the REAL fast people can have any black cloud removed from
> > themselves. I don't race on OLR, so I'm speaking in theory, but I doknow
> > cheating has been prevelant in the past, and I'm pretty sure it will
> > continue in some form in the future. But I applaud OLR for attemptingto
> > give their PAYING CUSTOMERS real value.
> >
> > dave henrie
