Nascar2-can we say bugs?

Dear Paul Page from Papyrus, I don't know if it's that everyone was decapitated or if I'm supposed to be able to drive right through the pace car, either way these problems should be fixed before the extended release date of this game. I get kind of creeped out looking into other cars and not seeing a driver, so imagine how I felt when I played this game! And when I rammed the pace car in a fit of *** outburst I got to drive right through it's empty body. It was kind of cool seeing the axles an all, but really, that thing should have been scrap! I have friends who spit upon Nascar as the redneck hog races compared to the finesse of Indycar racing, so let's do this one right. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy as hell that the demo finally got out, just a little disappointed. -Roger McKecklis

I though he finished Phoenix, but got knocked out of Atlanta. But I was at the race and wasn't paying attention to him so he might of (it's kinda hard to keep track of everyone on the track when you go. I had a scanner so I was busy listening to Bobby Hamilton scream and yell as he crossed the finish line for his first win. You should heard Richard Petty! Later, John

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> Dear Paul Page from Papyrus, > I don't know if it's that everyone was decapitated or if I'm supposed > to be able to drive right through the pace car, either way these > problems should be fixed before the extended release date of this > game. I get kind of creeped out looking into other cars and not > seeing a driver, so imagine how I felt when I played this game! And > when I rammed the pace car in a fit of *** outburst I got to drive > right through it's empty body. It was kind of cool seeing the axles > an all, but really, that thing should have been scrap! I have friends > who spit upon Nascar as the redneck hog races compared to the finesse > of Indycar racing, so let's do this one right. Don't get me wrong, > I'm happy as hell that the demo finally got out, just a little > disappointed. > -Roger McKecklis

Don't know if anyone has mentioned this to you...but, you are supposed to avoid hitting other cars. If you are colliding with the pace car, then I for one, would like to avoid racing with you. Authentic crashes really aren't what this is about. Regards, Terry

> I have friends who spit upon Nascar as the redneck hog races compared > to the finesse of Indycar racing, Y'know it's this attitude that has completely stopped me from watching open wheel racing. If it's so damned easy, how come Robbie Gordon can't keep one on the track? Tell your friends to stand on their heads and pour a mimosa up their ass.

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> > I have friends who spit upon Nascar as the redneck hog races compared > > to the finesse of Indycar racing, > Y'know it's this attitude that has completely stopped me from watching > open wheel racing. If it's so damned easy, how come Robbie Gordon can't > keep one on the track? > Tell your friends to stand on their heads and pour a mimosa up their > ass.

Mark, Why would you stop watching a form of racing because that forms' fans do not like your form of racing? I am a fan of racing, I watch Nascar, Indycar, Indylites, F1, Off-road, Busch, NasTrucks and even the Plymouth Neon Challenge races. Don't look at the types of racing by the social class that pays to watch them. Watch racing for the "love of the sport". Even though all types are somewhat different all of them race side by side and the goal is to cross the finish line first. Alan Bourassa P.S. Robby Gordon did very well at Las Vegas. If you look back at the Rockingham and Pheonix races, you will see that he was hit from behind. Musgrave took Robby out at Rockingham, I think Jeff Burton hit him at Pheonix.

He was not in the Atlanta race. He had an off-road race someplace, I don't remember where. Alan

> Tell your friends to stand on their heads and pour a mimosa up their > ass. Dont you mean, down their ass?

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> > I though he finished Phoenix, but got knocked out of Atlanta. But I was > > at the race and wasn't paying attention to him so he might of (it's > > kinda hard to keep track of everyone on the track when you go. I had a > > scanner so I was busy listening to Bobby Hamilton scream and yell as he > > crossed the finish line for his first win. You should heard Richard > > Petty! Later, > > John > He was not in the Atlanta race. He had an off-road race someplace, I > don't remember where. > Alan

Alan, You're right, Elton Sawyer was in the 40 car at Atlanta. Don Clawson DonC - Hawaii

Watch racing for the "love of the sport". Alan Bourassa Amen and thank you. RacerX

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> > I have friends who spit upon Nascar as the redneck hog races compared > > to the finesse of Indycar racing, > Y'know it's this attitude that has completely stopped me from watching > open wheel racing. If it's so damned easy, how come Robbie Gordon can't > keep one on the track? > Tell your friends to stand on their heads and pour a mimosa up their > ass.

I think R.Gordon stinks and he didnt kept an indycar in the track and in Nascar its going to get worse. I dont why people spend time posting opinion they dont have how to support them ask it to the andretti family they can give a good perspective (even I think that michael stinks too!) mpazo

I don't see why people bother posting their opinions at all:) -- Brian Fox The Fox Den: Nascar and ICR2 http://www.4w.com/pages/fox AND/OR http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1238 When I die, I want to go peacefully, like my grandfather in his sleep, not screaming like the other passengers in his car.

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>> > I though he finished Phoenix, but got knocked out of Atlanta. But I was >> > at the race and wasn't paying attention to him so he might of (it's >> > kinda hard to keep track of everyone on the track when you go. I had a >> > scanner so I was busy listening to Bobby Hamilton scream and yell as he >> > crossed the finish line for his first win. You should heard Richard >> > Petty! Later, >> > John >> He was not in the Atlanta race. He had an off-road race someplace, I >> don't remember where. >> Alan >Alan, >You're right, Elton Sawyer was in the 40 car at Atlanta. >Don Clawson >DonC - Hawaii

According To Nascar online, to verify my not always reliable memory, the 40 car was driven by Greg Sacks. Elton Sawyer Drove the 20 car, for Ranier/Walsh racing Jeffj

| > I have friends who spit upon Nascar as the redneck hog races compared | > to the finesse of Indycar racing, | Y'know it's this attitude that has completely stopped me from watching | open wheel racing. And other people are constantly saying exactly the opposite, that NASCAR fans keep them from watching NASCAR. I like Winston cup, CART, F1, indylights and toyota atlantic racing... if I payed attention to their fans, maybe I'd hate all of them. | If it's so damned easy, how come Robbie Gordon can't | keep one on the track? Did you see any of Robbie's performance in CART last season? I feel bad for the guy, he had a terrible year. It is clear that he can race- anything with wheels, in fact. Maybe he's just had some terrible luck. Anyway, I hope he figures out whats been going wrong. Anyway, this is not about simulators, and even worse, this is the sort of talk that divides everybody up. NASCAR isn't going to go away, and it certainly has no threat from third-place-and-falling, bleeding-to-death Indycar (what indycar? IRL? CART?). All racing is good for all forms of racing, and someone can get an F1or NASCAR sim for their birthday and discover they love racing, all racing. It is humbling for we americans to recognize that F1 is, event for event, the world's most popular sport- one *billion* people watch *every* F1 race, only the top matches in world cup soccer can compete. So does that make NASCAR fans like you resent F1? Fact is, NASCAR is making headway all over the world now- I think in some degree because of Papy's sim, but clearly also because people around the world already love and understand racing better than the average american, thanks to F1. M***is, 'Tis better to join ranks than divide.