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Isn't posting this Indy track illegial???

17 posts by 12 people · 13 Nov 1996 - 02 Dec 1996

David Gary 13 Nov 1996#343646
The consumer WILL NOT end up paying for this in the next sim from Sierra because ISW owns the rights and thats why you cant find it anymore! Personally I'm glad that the Canadian posted the INDY track info! More power to him if it doesnt reflect the royalties of Papy/Sierra!! I think Tony George(owner of IMS) can set himself on ***ING fire and I'll hand him the match and bring the "dogs"!!! I would hope he doesnt recieve any royalties of that software in the first place! The greedy idiot destroyed a lifelong tradition of professional CART racing for generations that came and will NEVER come again! Because of his own personal greed only a handful of noted and respected INDY drivers were among a bunch of hasbeen racers and rookies! He practically wrote the death wish for one very talented driver(who I will not name) because of his promotion of higher boost levels!! So *** IMS!!! I wish Tony's mother were still alive to smack the SHIT out of him for his childish and selfish actions!!! "Rookies and Hasbeens start your engines!" And MORE have posted that its NOT available! So I will agree with the majority on this one? -DG
Hi, I was just wondering why people are all of a sudden posting the indy track? Isn't this illegial or is the promission form Sierra to do this? Just curious, John -- Winners never quit, quiters never win
Eric Busch 14 Nov 1996#343747
I'm pretty sure it is still illegal to distribute the Indy track, but apparently the people posting it couldn't care less about the legality of their actions. -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/
John Vozna 14 Nov 1996#343748
Quoted text (11 lines)> Let me see, so far in the last three months my car and house have been > broken into, my girlfriend was ***ed as she walked down the street > and today i got a call from my credit card company that someone > illegally tried to charge $1000 to my credit card. Luckily I keep my > cards maxed out so the crooks were shit-outta-luck. > BUT when i saw that some one had illegally posted the indy track on > RAS that was the last straw. I called the FBI,CIA,MADD,the AARP and my > congressman and demanded hearings into the incident!!! > Sorry, but i'm going through a bad time right now...
Hi Scott: Unfortunately, you forgot to call the ACLU and Pres. Clinton, I'm sure they could have fixed all of your problems... :-) John -- +++++++++++++++++++++ Visit the New Ohio Business Directory at: [link lost in import] Need a web site??? Visit mine at: [link lost in import] How about some Common Sense??? [link lost in import: /~jvoznak]
Scott 15 Nov 1996#343861
Quoted text (16 lines)>I'm pretty sure it is still illegal to distribute the Indy track, but >apparently the people posting it couldn't care less about the legality >of their actions. >-- >Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences >Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/ >> I was just wondering why people are all of a sudden posting the >> indy track? Isn't this illegial or is the promission form Sierra to >> do this?
Let me see, so far in the last three months my car and house have been broken into, my girlfriend was ***ed as she walked down the street and today i got a call from my credit card company that someone illegally tried to charge $1000 to my credit card. Luckily I keep my cards maxed out so the crooks were shit-outta-luck. BUT when i saw that some one had illegally posted the indy track on RAS that was the last straw. I called the FBI,CIA,MADD,the AARP and my congressman and demanded hearings into the incident!!! Sorry, but i'm going through a bad time right now...
Botc 15 Nov 1996#343862
Quoted text (8 lines)> Hi, > I was just wondering why people are all of a sudden posting the > indy track? Isn't this illegial or is the promission form Sierra to > do this? > Just curious, > John > -- Winners never quit, quiters never win
Well, what else are you supposed to do, buy it? Seeing how they don't make it any more, and don't sell it anymore, how exactly is Sierra losing money? If it were still available for purchase, I'd agree completely. But it's not, and I don't. -- "You can always get more out of people with a kind word and a 2x4 than just a kind word"
It sure is illegal. Some people seem to think piracy is just a fancy word of no meaning. Hope they will be enlightened the hard way. If people are going to distribute pirated software openly on non-alt newsgroups, service providers might well be forced to stop the newsfeed. Welcome ignorance and goodbye r.a.s. -- /sami
Mark Smi 15 Nov 1996#343864
Quoted text (22 lines)>>I'm pretty sure it is still illegal to distribute the Indy track, but >>apparently the people posting it couldn't care less about the legality >>of their actions. >>-- >>Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences >>Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/ >>> I was just wondering why people are all of a sudden posting the >>> indy track? Isn't this illegial or is the promission form Sierra to >>> do this? >Let me see, so far in the last three months my car and house have been >broken into, my girlfriend was ***ed as she walked down the street >and today i got a call from my credit card company that someone >illegally tried to charge $1000 to my credit card. Luckily I keep my >cards maxed out so the crooks were shit-outta-luck.
What a COOL IDEA!! I never thought of maxxing my cards to protect myself!! I'm going on a spending spree right after work!!!
If everyone wants the track so bad, why didn't you buy it 2 years ago when it was readily available? That's what I did.
>Well, what else are you supposed to do, buy it? Seeing how they don't >make it any more, and don't sell it anymore, how exactly is Sierra >losing money? AFAIK it has nothing to do with Sierra/Papy. IMS hold the copyright/trademark on the IMS name and licence the reproduction of the track in whatever form. The licence deal with Papy ran out so Papy no longer have the right to sell it. IMS have the right to control the distribution of their trademarks & property. If you don't like it, complain to them. But theft is still theft, however you try to rationalise it. Others have posted that the pack is available from the IMS Museum. If so, it is still available. Richard
David Gary 17 Nov 1996#344037
Quoted text (8 lines)> One minute you're trying to be so insistent that you do not support > piracy. The next you advocate it simply because it doesn't affect your > favourite software house. Maybe DG does = ymenard after all?? > Tony George may or may not be the world's prize prat but that still isn't > a rationalisation for what is still theft. > Richard
What kinda babble is that?! Have you no understranding for English? Dont think for one minute I approve of Piracy! If you will read my post more clearly, you will see that My comment about ymenard was to the fact that if it DOES NOT effect Sierra/PAPY software. It doesnt matter if it Sierra/Papy, Microprose, whoever if the games no longer sold or recieving royalties. Jeez what a bunch of Murmer, look for some new glasses. -DG
One minute you're trying to be so insistent that you do not support piracy. The next you advocate it simply because it doesn't affect your favourite software house. Maybe DG does = ymenard after all?? Tony George may or may not be the world's prize prat but that still isn't a rationalisation for what is still theft. Richard
jeta 25 Nov 1996#344849
Quoted text (14 lines)> >Hi, > > I was just wondering why people are all of a sudden posting the > >indy track? Isn't this illegial or is the promission form Sierra to > >do this? > It sure is illegal. Some people seem to think piracy is just a > fancy word of no meaning. Hope they will be enlightened the hard > way. > If people are going to distribute pirated software openly on > non-alt newsgroups, service providers might well be forced to > stop the newsfeed. Welcome ignorance and goodbye r.a.s. > -- > /sami
Please get a life!
Shane Lans 02 Dec 1996#345637
Stupid thing to say. Some may not have been into computers then or have just found out how much fun car sims are or may-be they had to rely on there parents to buy it for them. Shane Lansky Hobart,Tasmania Australia
Shane Lans 02 Dec 1996#345638
Quoted text (18 lines)>>Well, what else are you supposed to do, buy it? Seeing how they don't >>make it any more, and don't sell it anymore, how exactly is Sierra >>losing money? >AFAIK it has nothing to do with Sierra/Papy. IMS hold the >copyright/trademark on the IMS name and licence the reproduction of the >track in whatever form. The licence deal with Papy ran out so Papy no >longer have the right to sell it. >IMS have the right to control the distribution of their trademarks & >property. If you don't like it, complain to them. But theft is still >theft, however you try to rationalise it. >>If it were still available for purchase, I'd agree >>completely. But it's not, and I don't. >Others have posted that the pack is available from the IMS Museum. If so, >it is still available.
For gods sake. How the hell is some one from over seas going to buy it then. Catch a damn Jumbo jet to the museum. Makes it awefully expencive to buy if thats the case.. Shane Lansky Hobart,Tasmania Australia
I was replying to someone who, as far as I could tell, was based in the States, so all he would have to do is get on the phone. It _is_ a problem getting hold of discontinued software, just as it is getting hold of out of print books, CDs, etc. But that doesn't suddenly make it OK to start ripping off those who own the copyright. No one is forced to sell stuff and no one has any god given right to be able to get hold of anything that belongs to someone else. Richard

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