GP2 Video Rating

Hi All, I have a question about this whole Proccessor and video speed thing in the log text.I previously owned a Diamond Stealth 64 2mb Dram video card and then ordered a Diamond 3d 2000 4mb Dram card.This didn't improve any frame rates or video speed in the text.In fact it didn't improve in any of my games.I then sent it back and bought a Matrox Millenium 4mb Wram card.This to didn't improve any games which is really starting to bug me.I know this is a good card so whats the deal?My scores in GP2 are Proccessor speed 324 and video speed 320.Is this good or do I have something wrong?Thanks for any help you can give me. Mark Muckey

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> Hi All, > I have a question about this whole Proccessor and video speed thing in > the log text.I previously owned a Diamond Stealth 64 2mb Dram video card > and then ordered a Diamond 3d 2000 4mb Dram card.This didn't improve any > frame rates or video speed in the text.In fact it didn't improve in any > of my games.I then sent it back and bought a Matrox Millenium 4mb Wram > card.This to didn't improve any games which is really starting to bug > me.I know this is a good card so whats the deal?My scores in GP2 are > Proccessor speed 324 and video speed 320.Is this good or do I have > something wrong?Thanks for any help you can give me. > Mark Muckey

Tell us what type of machine you have (ie. Pentium Pro 200, Pentium 166, etc.). Regards.

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> Hi All, > I have a question about this whole Proccessor and video speed thing in > the log text.I previously owned a Diamond Stealth 64 2mb Dram video card > and then ordered a Diamond 3d 2000 4mb Dram card.This didn't improve any > frame rates or video speed in the text.In fact it didn't improve in any > of my games.I then sent it back and bought a Matrox Millenium 4mb Wram > card.This to didn't improve any games which is really starting to bug > me.I know this is a good card so whats the deal?My scores in GP2 are > Proccessor speed 324 and video speed 320.Is this good or do I have > something wrong?Thanks for any help you can give me. > Mark Muckey

The processor rating is affected by your processor, motherboard, and memory subsystem. The video rating is a standard VGA rating, reflecting your video cards ability only in VGA, not SVGA. GP2 uses this video rating to calculate the estimated fps, which in SVGA may or may not be accurate. The ratings you get are exactly what I got with my P166 with a Stealth 64 2MB Dram, before I ran the S3SPDUP TSR. If you run this before you start GP2, your video score should go up to 428, and it noticably speeds up SVGA, at least 2fps. Run it like this: S3SPDUP /LOAD /VESA /VGA . You should be able to download it from some of the game/sim sites. Unless a game is written specifically for a 3D acelerator card, like the Diamond 3D Blaster PCI, or the Intergraph Reactor, it will run about the same on most high-quality cards, like the ones you've tried. Dos games have to be written for the chip on the card, and in Windows95, the game and the card have to support Direct 3D. If you want to see some improvement, get the Intergraph Reactor and run ICR2. You will not be dissapointed. GP2 will run the same on it. -- "Feel Lucky, Scubaboy?" - Discovery Channel, Shark Week, 1995

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>Hi All, > I have a question about this whole Proccessor and video speed thing in >the log text.I previously owned a Diamond Stealth 64 2mb Dram video card >and then ordered a Diamond 3d 2000 4mb Dram card.This didn't improve any >frame rates or video speed in the text.In fact it didn't improve in any >of my games.I then sent it back and bought a Matrox Millenium 4mb Wram >card.This to didn't improve any games which is really starting to bug >me.I know this is a good card so whats the deal?My scores in GP2 are >Proccessor speed 324 and video speed 320.Is this good or do I have >something wrong?Thanks for any help you can give me. > Mark Muckey

Hi there. I think you can solve the problem by load upgrade the millenium driver to ver. 3.14 and also the bios on the millenium card to ver. 2.2. I have p133 + matrox mill.4MB and the log file reads: proc 257 and video 484. You find the upgrade files on: http://www.matrox.com. Good luck and send a report if you succed. Michael Gripenfors

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> > Hi All, > > I have a question about this whole Proccessor and video speed thing in > > the log text.I previously owned a Diamond Stealth 64 2mb Dram video card > > and then ordered a Diamond 3d 2000 4mb Dram card.This didn't improve any > > frame rates or video speed in the text.In fact it didn't improve in any > > of my games.I then sent it back and bought a Matrox Millenium 4mb Wram > > card.This to didn't improve any games which is really starting to bug > > me.I know this is a good card so whats the deal?My scores in GP2 are > > Proccessor speed 324 and video speed 320.Is this good or do I have > > something wrong?Thanks for any help you can give me. > > Mark Muckey > Tell us what type of machine you have (ie. Pentium Pro 200, Pentium 166, > etc.). > Regards.

I had the same Stealth64 video 3200 2mb. video score about 350 on a P166. I changed it for a Hercules Dynamite 128, 2mb. Video score about 525. Estimated fr went from 18.6 to 21.6 with just the essential textures ( of course no sky ). But this did not translate into anything dramatic in the actual game. Slight improvement at best. I then tried a Reactor, Video score went to 125, but only marginal difference again in the game, slower this time. ICR2 was just great though. I removed the board yesterday because it locked up windows repeatedly. VGAFIX did not help. So I'm back to the Dynamite. The bottom line it that you have a very good card right now with the Stealth. IMO it is not worth to shell out money for the Dynamite, unless you can unload that Stealth for some dough. The speed boost you gain in GP2 is marginal, but you do wind up with maybe the fastest DOS card out there. The best money right now would be on a processor upgrade. I don't know what you have now, but if it's a p90 or p100, then go for it. No graphic card is going to improve the game that much. Then hope they port gp2 to a specific card. Don't hold your breath. My guess is that within six months will see another great F1 sim, maybe for the Verite or the Voodoo, and this will be a better sim than what we can hope from GP2 in the future. My 2 cents Guy Brosseau

SW> The processor rating is affected by your processor, motherboard, and SW> memory subsystem. The video rating is a standard VGA rating, reflecti= ng SW> your video cards ability only in VGA, not SVGA. The video rating is affected by bus speed (external CPU clock) as well. Inc= reasing bus speed from 50 to 60 or even 66MHz will increase video performan= ce. At least i know it's true for gfx cards with PCI bus. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Henrik Hjortnaes AMIGA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>The video rating is affected by bus speed (external CPU clock) as well. Inc= >reasing bus speed from 50 to 60 or even 66MHz will increase video performan= >ce. At least i know it's true for gfx cards with PCI bus. It should be added that the PCI bus runs at 1/2 the memory bus. So a 66-MHz clock on the memory bus will have the PCI graphics card running at 33 MHz. (60 --> 30MHz, 50 --> 25 MHz.) -- Robin Chung 92 F2 pilot Senior Performance Architect, MTI-V F-1 Vehicle Dynamicist AMA#699255 HRC#HM402849 FAX:(510) 642 4769 To Gillian on her 20,000th mile birthday...!

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> > Hi All, > > I have a question about this whole Proccessor and video speed thing in > > the log text.I previously owned a Diamond Stealth 64 2mb Dram video card > > and then ordered a Diamond 3d 2000 4mb Dram card.This didn't improve any > > frame rates or video speed in the text.In fact it didn't improve in any > > of my games.I then sent it back and bought a Matrox Millenium 4mb Wram > > card.This to didn't improve any games which is really starting to bug > > me.I know this is a good card so whats the deal?My scores in GP2 are > > Proccessor speed 324 and video speed 320.Is this good or do I have > > something wrong?Thanks for any help you can give me. > > Mark Muckey > Tell us what type of machine you have (ie. Pentium Pro 200, Pentium 166, > etc.). > Regards.

Yeh, Mark I had the same problem. I had a Diamond Stealth 64 with 2mb (Pentium 166) and went to a new VX motherboard and Diamond 3d 2000 with 2mb and these were the results: GP Log: Old FX motherboard 166pentium Stealth 64 2mb Speed 324 video 330 Gp Log: New VX motherboard 166 pentium Stealth 3d 2000 2mb Speed 354 video 318 So figure that? My cpu speed went up but my video went down. The 3d card has the S3 virage chipset so I figure the card will perform (I think it performs pretty good anyway) better with the 3D games that will come out. I notice no difference in game playing though. Also I can now run S3spdup.exe resident whereas before the machine would just hang when I wanted to run gp2. I'm going to stick with the 3d for now. ps. In my old system I tried an ET4000 PCI and got the same video score as the Diamond. Cheaper card too (not so many nice features in windows95 though).