Rendition version ICR2 and converted tracks

> Does anybody know with the Rendition version of Indycar 2 whether or not you > can use the converted Indianapolis track and Nascar tracks and what do they > look like if they do work. They work and they look fantastic. It's almost like getting new tracks. It is probably the first time you will race with full detail at these tracks. The surface textures look much smoother, even when you are close to them, and all straight lines have almost no "jaggies". Get it. -- "Feel Lucky, Scubaboy?" - Discovery Channel, Shark Week, 1995

Does anybody know with the Rendition version of Indycar 2 whether or not you can use the converted Indianapolis track and Nascar tracks and what do they look like if they do work.

Steven, How much RAM do you have? I installed Indianapolis to my Rendition version, but the game says I have insufficient memory to load track. I only have 16MB and planning to upgrade to 32 in the near future, but I'm curious to know if this is really the problem or not. It seems to me that the Laguna or Elkhart Rendition tracks would eat up as much RAM as Indy would, and they work perfect. Thanks for any answers. --

>How much RAM do you have? I installed Indianapolis to my Rendition version, >but the game says I have insufficient memory to load track. I only have >16MB and planning to upgrade to 32 in the near future, but I'm curious to >know if this is really the problem or not. It seems to me that the Laguna >or Elkhart Rendition tracks would eat up as much RAM as Indy would, and >they work perfect. Thanks for any answers. Have you tried it using the 4-bit car set ? Just curious. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This space intentionally left blank

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> Steven, > How much RAM do you have? I installed Indianapolis to my Rendition version, > but the game says I have insufficient memory to load track. I only have > 16MB and planning to upgrade to 32 in the near future, but I'm curious to > know if this is really the problem or not. It seems to me that the Laguna > or Elkhart Rendition tracks would eat up as much RAM as Indy would, and > they work perfect. Thanks for any answers. > --

Berry, I have 40MB of ram. I wanted to try it with 16, but because of the SIMMS I have, I could only do 32 or 8 MB. To run in 8MB, I had to use the 4bit car set. I also re-ran the setup to use the 8bit mono Soundblaster driver, instead of the 16bit stereo one, which should help some. None of the enhanced IndycarII tracks would load, but all of the standard ones did. Of the 6 converted tracks I have, Las Vegas, Talladega, and Watkins Glen did load, but Bristol, Indy, and Sears Point would not, due to insufficient memory. Strange, because the Indy.dat file is only 1.1MB, while Laguna.dat, which will load, is 2.22MB. I suggest trying the 4bit carset, if you haven't already. Also, an 8bit mono soundcard choice might also help. And, strip down your config.sys & autoexec.bat as much as possible. You don't need any memory managers, don't load any cdrom drivers, or smartdrv. Good Luck! -- "Feel Lucky, Scubaboy?" - Discovery Channel, Shark Week, 1995

says... I also installed Indy, but I have no problems. I have a P5-133 with 16 meg of ram. Indy flew on mine. What processor do you have? -- http://www.netins.net/showcase/mpete Nascar..Weather..OnNetCameras..Oddities..and more.. Stop on by, what can it hurt?

Hey guys, Thanks to all of you for the 4bit carset advice. Loaded up Indy and it works fine. God it's great to see Indy at 30fps. Now if only my other carsets would work..... <G> --

>Hey guys, >Thanks to all of you for the 4bit carset advice. Loaded up Indy and it >works fine. God it's great to see Indy at 30fps. Now if only my other >carsets would work..... <G> >-- What do you mean by 4-bit? Do you mean the carsets that come with the non-3D version? Are carsets that are available over the internet 4-bit?

> What do you mean by 4-bit? Do you mean the carsets that come with the non-3D > version? Are carsets that are available over the internet 4-bit? The Rendition version of ICR2 comes with 2 carsets, 4bit95 and cars95. The 4bit set is to allow the game to run in 8MB. The cars95 set requires 12MB ram. They are the same 1995 cars. I think the 4bits refers to number of colors used. The regular set is 8-bit. The 4bit set doesn't look much worse than the 8-bit set, due to the Rendition's anti-aliasing and bilinear filtering. I 'think' all other carsets are 8-bit, because I ran the sim in 8MB, and out of 8 carsets I have, only the 4bit would work. The documention states that the 4bit set will not work with the paintkit. Maybe someone will come up with a patch to let the paintkit work with the 4-bit cars, or a converter to make 4-bit sets out of 8-bit ones. -- "Feel Lucky, Scubaboy?" - Discovery Channel, Shark Week, 1995

> How does one get ahold of the Rendition version of IndyCar II. > I have the DOS version, so is this a free/cheap upgrade? > >> How much RAM do you have? I installed Indianapolis to my Rendition version, > >> but the game says I have insufficient memory to load track. I only have Dan, Right now the only way to get it is to buy a Rendition card. The full Rendition version is included with the Intergraph Reactor and Sierra's Screamin 3D, though I've heard the Screamin 3D is backordered. The other Rendition card, Creative Labs 3D Blaster PCI, doesn't come with it. Sierra\Papyrus' site has nothing about a patch for the dos version, but I'm sure they could, not too many files are different. The 5 new 16 bit tracks are pretty big, though. The Rendition version requires a full hard drive install, 75MB during installation, and 55 after the install is done. I would get the Intergraph Reactor, its $150 until Christmas. You can order it direct at 1-800-692-8069. If you haven't already, check out their website at: http://205.139.128.5/ics/reactor/ Get ready to be blown away! -- "Feel Lucky, Scubaboy?" - Discovery Channel, Shark Week, 1995

How does one get ahold of the Rendition version of IndyCar II. I have the DOS version, so is this a free/cheap upgrade?

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>Right now the only way to get it is to buy a Rendition card. The full >Rendition version is included with the Intergraph Reactor and Sierra's >Screamin 3D, though I've heard the Screamin 3D is backordered. The other >Rendition card, Creative Labs 3D Blaster PCI, doesn't come with it. >Sierra\Papyrus' site has nothing about a patch for the dos version, but >I'm sure they could, not too many files are different. The 5 new 16 bit >tracks are pretty big, though. The Rendition version requires a full hard >drive install, 75MB during installation, and 55 after the install is done. >I would get the Intergraph Reactor, its $150 until Christmas. You can >order it direct at 1-800-692-8069. If you haven't already, check out >their website at: >http://205.139.128.5/ics/reactor/ >Get ready to be blown away! >-- >"Feel Lucky, Scubaboy?" - Discovery Channel, Shark Week, 1995

What do you mean by 5 new 16 bit tracks? Are only 5 out of 15 tracks in true color and the rest the same as in the non-Rendition Indycar 2 version?

Yes, only 5 of the tracks have been updated with 16-bit color textures. All of the tracks still get the full benefit of 3D acceleration including bi-linear filtering, perspective correction, anti-aliasing, etc... -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

I would like to know when is the right time to change a gear up in GP2... is it when the yellow light is on , or should one wait until the red one apears? I am asking this because in GP1 the right time to change a gear up was ( i think ) when there were still some 300/400 revs. until red, but as GP2 is such a good sim. and as we can see in TV the pilots waiting until the last light is on to change a gear up, i would like if someone of you guys could tell me that. Regards, Pedro Fernandes. PS. sorry for my poor english.

You have to buy a video card that has the rendition chip. Some come with ICR2 rendtion version. Just having the software would be useless. I don't know if it would actually work but it would probably be something like running Grand Prix 2 on a 486/SX25. -- The wise man can pick up a grain of sand and envision a whole universe, but the stupid man will just lay down on some seaweed and roll around until he's completely draped in it. Then he'll stand up and go, "Hey, I'm Vine Man." Jack Handey.

> What do you mean by 5 new 16 bit tracks? Are only 5 out of 15 tracks in true > color and the rest the same as in the non-Rendition Indycar 2 version? Yes, that's right. It comes with all 15 of the original tracks -plus 5 new true color versions of Road America, Laguna Seca, Michigan, Phoenix, and Portland. The original tracks and converted Nascar tracks look better than they did before, though, because of the Rendition's 3D capabilities. -- "Feel Lucky, Scubaboy?" - Discovery Channel, Shark Week, 1995

> You have to buy a video card that has the rendition chip. Some come > with ICR2 rendtion version. Just having the software would be useless. I > don't know if it would actually work but it would probably be something > like running Grand Prix 2 on a 486/SX25. >I does not run at all. It fails to find the rendition chip and stops. Guy Brosseau

On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:33:33 +0000, Pedro Fernandes

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> I would like to know when is the right time to change a gear up >in GP2... is it when the yellow light is on , or should one wait until >the red one apears? > I am asking this because in GP1 the right time to change a gear >up was ( i think ) when there were still some 300/400 revs. until red, >but as GP2 is such a good sim. and as we can see in TV the pilots waiting >until the last light is on to change a gear up, i would like if someone of >you guys could tell me that.

Personally I go up into the red light for a second or two. You can here it spinning real hard then. Any longer and nothing happens as the rev limiter cuts in anyway. The draw back is if you go into the red to long and to often you run the chance of stuffing your engine.. Take note in the TV views how they do it.. Dont worry about that. Some of the english need to be sorry for there poor english... :-) Shane Lansky Hobart,Tasmania Australia

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> On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:33:33 +0000, Pedro Fernandes > > I would like to know when is the right time to change a gear up > >in GP2... is it when the yellow light is on , or should one wait until > >the red one apears? > > I am asking this because in GP1 the right time to change a gear > >up was ( i think ) when there were still some 300/400 revs. until red, > >but as GP2 is such a good sim. and as we can see in TV the pilots waiting > >until the last light is on to change a gear up, i would like if someone of > >you guys could tell me that. > Personally I go up into the red light for a second or two. You can > here it spinning real hard then. Any longer and nothing happens as the > rev limiter cuts in anyway. The draw back is if you go into the red to > long and to often you run the chance of stuffing your engine.. > Take note in the TV views how they do it.. > >PS. sorry for my poor english. > Dont worry about that. Some of the english need to be sorry for there > poor english... :-) > Shane Lansky > Hobart,Tasmania > Australia

Yo Shane, You gotta wait till the RED LED Hi-lights.....try deselect all pilots from the Driver/Team menu, then run a track race....watch the computer jockeys do there stuff to get the right idea. Yeah! GP2 is GOOD..... Besta Luck Jammer (UK)

: Personally I go up into the red light for a second or two. You can : here it spinning real hard then. Any longer and nothing happens as the : rev limiter cuts in anyway. The draw back is if you go into the red to : long and to often you run the chance of stuffing your engine.. : Take note in the TV views how they do it.. This also has a tendency to produce poor fuel milage. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=