A RAC Rally question

I have just installed Network Q RAC rally and although it works not too bad in Win 95, I can't get it to run properly in DOS. The graphics keep locking up and everything seems to happen much slower, almost as if there is insufficient memory, I'm running it on a P100 with 24meg RAM I've tried all three install options but still the same problem. also in Windows the sound starts breaking up after about 2 or 3 stages of the Rally.- any ideas TIA Mark __ I\ /I /\ I I I / I \/ I / \ I \ I \

writes I installed RAC network Q rally in DOS originally and then re-installed it in Win95 and the music on the into was braking up but everything else was fine. -- Mark Liddell

I heartily agree with all your points, I bought the game because I was looking for something that came close to sega rally. RAC Rally feels totally unrealistic, the cars skate about like they're on castors, and have as much realism as a shopping trolley. Every other racing simulator/game I've tried has VGA support. RAC Rally doesn't. I have a 120mhz Pentium, and It still doesn't refresh very well. Europress Really need to get their act together, If you look at their Support BBS page, their are unbeleivable problems posted. Another problem is that the program requires too much conventional memory. You end up removing sound drivers etc to make the thing work. At the end of the day Europress having released an unsuitable product, that quite obviously was not beta tested correctly (On anything smaller than a Pentium Pro 200). Sort it out Europress, and sort out a patch. By the way, the removed my messages from their BBS. Embarrissing if you can't take critisizm

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>writes >>I have just installed Network Q RAC rally and although it works not too >>bad in Win 95, I can't get it to run properly in DOS. The graphics keep >>locking up and everything seems to happen much slower, almost as if there >>is insufficient memory, I'm running it on a P100 with 24meg RAM I've tried >>all three install options but still the same problem. also in Windows the >>sound starts breaking up after about 2 or 3 stages of the Rally.- any >>ideas >>TIA >>Mark >> __ >>I\ /I /\ I I I / >>I \/ I / \ I \ I \ >I installed RAC network Q rally in DOS originally and then re-installed >it in Win95 and the music on the into was braking up but everything else >was fine.

-- Matt Porter

I do agree in many points. I tried the game on a pentium 166 & 200. While it works good under a P166 it blasts off with a P200 (+ Matrox Millenium) I hadnt problems with DOS memory though I have SCSI drivers installed The driving itself becomes unrealistic if you e.g. try to initiate a drift using braking and steering => it isnt possible .... I'm also looking forward to a patch ...... Martin

I n reply to recent postings about the "playability" of RAC rally may I have my twopenneth. I run my full version on a 133 clocked at 150 , 32 MB , Matrox Mill 2MB ,SB 16 and a sammy 17GLI. The frame rate seems to be far in excess of Indycar & GP2.To coin a phrase it goes like shit of a shovel!.I've had more lockups with GP2 than I can remember, not one with "Rally". On the point of realism surely the point of PC *** is to have a bit of fun ? If I wanted smack on realism I'd go on one of those "Rally Weekends" you can pay for. Maybe a Newsgroup split is required rec.autos.sim.moaners? (says he donning flameproof overalls) Don't forget life's short have a laugh while you can. Regards Stu.

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>I n reply to recent postings about the "playability" of RAC rally >may I have my twopenneth. >I run my full version on a 133 clocked at 150 , 32 MB , Matrox Mill >2MB ,SB 16 and a sammy 17GLI. >The frame rate seems to be far in excess of Indycar & GP2.To >coin a phrase it goes like shit of a shovel!.I've had more lockups >with GP2 than I can remember, not one with "Rally". >On the point of realism surely the point of PC *** is to have >a bit of fun ? If I wanted smack on realism I'd go on one of those >"Rally Weekends" you can pay for. >Maybe a Newsgroup split is required rec.autos.sim.moaners? >(says he donning flameproof overalls) >Don't forget life's short have a laugh while you can. > Regards >Stu.

I totally agree. My P133/32mb/Mystique pushes Rally along at a great rate. Crammond could learn a lot from the coding on this game. I get the feeling from the taste of postings that Rally is getting a bad rep' for some reason. I'm a GP2 fan and had been poo poo-ing all the whinging in this group about it , but frankly, since buying RALLY my eyes have been opened to how deficient the GP2 core really is. M.S.K.

Probably one of the biggest differences between RALLY and GP2 is that in RALLY only one car is being modelled at a time, whereas GP2 has to model 28 cars on the track at a time - all of which also have to "interact" with each other (passing, slipstreaming, crashing into each other). I think that this modelling is a lot more processor intensive than drawing the graphics. RALLY only has to move the scenery past the car at a reasonable rate which is fairly simple. GP2 is doing that as well as drawing the other cars and the modelling. In summary I think GP2 is doing a hell of a lot more work than RALLY and so runs slower. John

> I totally agree. My P133/32mb/Mystique pushes Rally along at a great > rate. > Crammond could learn a lot from the coding on this game. GP2 is a simulator, not just another no-brain racing game with great graphics but no feel that you're actually driving a car. Although Need for Speed isn't a rally simulation, I think it's still the closest you can get to the feeling of driving a car on a twisty road. RAC has good frame rate on my P100, but it doesn't make that repetitive scenery and corners feel like a real road at all. GP2 with all it's slowness when too much graphics detail is on is still the best simulator, but you can always hope they will make a special version for some of those new 3D cards 8)

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>I n reply to recent postings about the "playability" of RAC rally >may I have my twopenneth. >I run my full version on a 133 clocked at 150 , 32 MB , Matrox Mill >2MB ,SB 16 and a sammy 17GLI. >The frame rate seems to be far in excess of Indycar & GP2.To >coin a phrase it goes like shit of a shovel!.I've had more lockups >with GP2 than I can remember, not one with "Rally". >On the point of realism surely the point of PC *** is to have >a bit of fun ? If I wanted smack on realism I'd go on one of those >"Rally Weekends" you can pay for. >Maybe a Newsgroup split is required rec.autos.sim.moaners? >(says he donning flameproof overalls) >Don't forget life's short have a laugh while you can. > Regards >Stu.

Have to agree with you on this one. My machine is a P133, 32 meg ram, Mattrox millenium, and AFAIC it is the fastest thing I've seen on the PC. Excellent.......