I'm more amazed everyday as to why GP2 sucks like it does, I just
learned from a valuable resource that Geoff Crammond's so-called design
team didnt even create a modem link for GP2, instead his LAZY-ASS just
added an old link from a previous game!!! To BAD we couldnt pay HALF
price for a HALF-ASS game. Geoff, I hope you had fun with our money on
vacation you incompetent ***!!!!! I hope the nocdrom zip stops your
Money flow!!!Why in the hell would you create such a great feeling and
graphical sim only too SCAR it by not finishing the DAMN THING?!!!
Why would you take such shortcuts!!! Michealangelo never mixed his
bowel movements with his paint pigments!! Why would you?!! You ***ing
IDIOT!! - DG
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> >I'm more amazed everyday as to why GP2 sucks like it does, I just > >learned from a valuable resource that Geoff Crammond's so-called design > >team didnt even create a modem link for GP2, instead his LAZY-ASS just > -- ramblings, profanity, etc snipped.... > And you wonder why the Papyrus guys dont hang around here much > anymore. I'm not saying you have to kiss Geoff or anyone elses ass > but ferchristsakes grow up or no ones gonna take you seriously. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > MP > Scurvydog #00 Simpson-Cowlings Motorsports > [link lost in import: /~svydog/scms/index.html] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>I'm more amazed everyday as to why GP2 sucks like it does, I just
>learned from a valuable resource that Geoff Crammond's so-called design
>team didnt even create a modem link for GP2, instead his LAZY-ASS just
-- ramblings, profanity, etc snipped....
And you wonder why the Papyrus guys dont hang around here much
anymore. I'm not saying you have to kiss Geoff or anyone elses ass
but ferchristsakes grow up or no ones gonna take you seriously.
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Scurvydog #00 Simpson-Cowlings Motorsports
http://www.netcom.com/~svydog/scms/index.html
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Do you ever watch commercials? They always promise more as the product
provide. You bought a product basicly on an advert? O boy.
Greetings, Remco
greetings,
Remco
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>Well a fine reply from a less intellegent source! The Bottom line is : >we paid >FULL price for a HALF-ASS game. If anyone needs to "grow up" its these >guys that lay down and >dont speak up for the money they have spent and the ***their having to >go through >to try to get this game to run right. Yeah thats right Microprose has >your money >and they've givin you something far less than expected. The "TRUE" >racing sim fanatics need to >DO something to make sure this ***doesnt happen in the future!! The >location to sign a petition >will be announced in the near future to keep the integrity of RACING >SIM'S future. Only the veterans >and serious Racin' sim fanatics need to sign! OUR COMPUTERS ARE OUR >GUNS, THE NET IS OUR BULLET AND >THESE DESIGNERS ARE OUR TARGET!!! We will protect the future of DESIGN!! >WE SHALL DEMAND IT!>I'm more amazed everyday as to why GP2 sucks like it does, I just
>learned from a valuable resource that Geoff Crammond's so-called design
>team didnt even create a modem link for GP2, instead his LAZY-ASS just
>added an old link from a previous game!!! To BAD we couldnt pay HALF
You would have rather waited another 3 months for the sim? you're
probably one of those that were belly-aching cuz it wasn't out earlier
than when it was released.
It's easy to criticize... it's hard to find good in something. Anyone
can complain...
Go #6 Mark Martin,#16 Ted Musgrave & #99 Jeff Burton - Jack Roush Racing!!
NASCAR Racing!!
http://camalott.com/~sean/nascar/nascar.htm <--NASCAR Racing Sim page
I don't run GP2, but I am sure that your frustration is well founded.
Rather than expressing your personal frustration at the GP2 developers, why
not post of list of the unfinished pieces and suggestions as to what should
be done. This should include a list of outstanding problems as well. Try
also sending the list fo Microprose via e-mail and/or snail-mail. If they
are not responsive to your requests and those of other sim racers (I am
sure others will join you in this), then let's stop buying their products.
Papyrus has been open to suggestions - so far. Some of the features
requested appear to making it into NASCAR Racing 2. I have sent them many
lists of features, changes etc. I have gotten responses to each. Next
step will be to see if they include them, and if not, I will continue to
request them. However, I will not swear at them - since they will never
listen if I do.
If you really feel this product (GP2) is not worth the money, request a
refund. This is another option that is open to you. If they refuse, take
them to court.
Good luck. /THansen
> > >I'm more amazed everyday as to why GP2 sucks like it does, I just
> > >learned from a valuable resource that Geoff Crammond's so-called design
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> > >team didnt even create a modem link for GP2, instead his LAZY-ASS just > > -- ramblings, profanity, etc snipped.... > > And you wonder why the Papyrus guys dont hang around here much > > anymore. I'm not saying you have to kiss Geoff or anyone elses ass > > but ferchristsakes grow up or no ones gonna take you seriously. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > MP > > Scurvydog #00 Simpson-Cowlings Motorsports > > [link lost in import: /~svydog/scms/index.html] > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Well a fine reply from a less intellegent source! The Bottom line is : > we paid > FULL price for a HALF-ASS game. If anyone needs to "grow up" its these > guys that lay down and > dont speak up for the money they have spent and the ***their having to > go through > to try to get this game to run right. Yeah thats right Microprose has > your money > and they've givin you something far less than expected. The "TRUE" > racing sim fanatics need to > DO something to make sure this ***doesnt happen in the future!! The > location to sign a petition > will be announced in the near future to keep the integrity of RACING > SIM'S future. Only the veterans > and serious Racin' sim fanatics need to sign! OUR COMPUTERS ARE OUR > GUNS, THE NET IS OUR BULLET AND > THESE DESIGNERS ARE OUR TARGET!!! We will protect the future of DESIGN!! > WE SHALL DEMAND IT! > BTW.......nice page! -David Gary>Well a fine reply from a less intellegent source! The Bottom line is :
>we paid
>FULL price for a HALF-ASS game. If anyone needs to "grow up" its these
In YOUR Opinion... and you know what they say about opinions?
Crap? ***would be touting a racing simulator and getting an arcade
game instead. Is this all because you're mad that Geoff Crammond
used a routine (modem) from another program? I hate to be the one to
enlighten you, but programmers do that ALL THE TIME. That's
considered NORMAL, ROUTINE, etc, etc, etc. Of course, I'm sure *YOU*
never used something that you had done earlier... I'm sure *YOU*
re-invented the wheel everytime... :)
Be thankful; a lot of games out there today are basically rewritten
themes from an old program. GP2 is a LOT better than GP1 was,
although it has a very familiar ring to it.
Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day. You must not have been using
computers very long. You should try and run Indy500, which when it
came out, was VERY state of the art! if you don't think so, load up
Grand Prix Circuit by Accolade. (and *that* was hot stuff at one time
too!)
One step at a time, racing sims are getting better and better. Just
like anything else, it takes a little time, patience and hard work,
not some loud mouthed punk spouting off and showing their ignorance,
stupidity and immaturity. ;> (you wouldn't want people to think of
*YOU* that way, would you?)
Go #6 Mark Martin,#16 Ted Musgrave & #99 Jeff Burton - Jack Roush Racing!!
NASCAR Racing!!
[link lost in import: /~sean/nascar/nascar.htm] <--NASCAR Racing Sim page
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> >Well a fine reply from a less intellegent source! The Bottom line is : > >we paid > >FULL price for a HALF-ASS game. If anyone needs to "grow up" its these > In YOUR Opinion... and you know what they say about opinions? > >and they've givin you something far less than expected. The "TRUE" > >racing sim fanatics need to > >DO something to make sure this ***doesnt happen in the future!! The > Crap? ***would be touting a racing simulator and getting an arcade > game instead. Is this all because you're mad that Geoff Crammond > used a routine (modem) from another program? I hate to be the one to > enlighten you, but programmers do that ALL THE TIME. That's > considered NORMAL, ROUTINE, etc, etc, etc. Of course, I'm sure *YOU* > never used something that you had done earlier... I'm sure *YOU* > re-invented the wheel everytime... :) > Be thankful; a lot of games out there today are basically rewritten > themes from an old program. GP2 is a LOT better than GP1 was, > although it has a very familiar ring to it. > >location to sign a petition > >will be announced in the near future to keep the integrity of RACING > >SIM'S future. Only the veterans > >and serious Racin' sim fanatics need to sign! OUR COMPUTERS ARE OUR > >GUNS, THE NET IS OUR BULLET AND > >THESE DESIGNERS ARE OUR TARGET!!! We will protect the future of DESIGN!! > >WE SHALL DEMAND IT! > Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day. You must not have been using > computers very long. You should try and run Indy500, which when it > came out, was VERY state of the art! if you don't think so, load up > Grand Prix Circuit by Accolade. (and *that* was hot stuff at one time > too!) > One step at a time, racing sims are getting better and better. Just > like anything else, it takes a little time, patience and hard work, > not some loud mouthed punk spouting off and showing their ignorance, > stupidity and immaturity. ;> (you wouldn't want people to think of > *YOU* that way, would you?) > Go #6 Mark Martin,#16 Ted Musgrave & #99 Jeff Burton - Jack Roush Racing!! > NASCAR Racing!! > [link lost in import: /~sean/nascar/nascar.htm] <--NASCAR Racing Sim pageOn Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:10:35 -0500, David Gary
Speaking as a "TRUE" racing sim fanatic, GP2 is a wonderful
achievement.
Thankfully for every snivelling ungrateful sod out there who thinks
that the world was created solely to satisfy their wants, there are at
least 10 who thank Geoff Crammond, Papyrus etc for producing great
sims that none of us would be able to enjoy without all their hard
work.
Those of us who have been following Geoff's work since Revs can
recognise GP2 as being the latest in the line of great sims that he
has produced. It may not be perfect, but the important parts work, and
work well.
BTW: get the date fixed on your PC's clock and also reduce that max
line width.
Richard
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>The "TRUE" >racing sim fanatics need to >DO something to make sure this ***doesnt happen in the future!! The >location to sign a petition >will be announced in the near future to keep the integrity of RACING >SIM'S future. Only the veterans >and serious Racin' sim fanatics need to sign! OUR COMPUTERS ARE OUR >GUNS, THE NET IS OUR BULLET AND >THESE DESIGNERS ARE OUR TARGET!!! We will protect the future of DESIGN!! >WE SHALL DEMAND IT!> we paid FULL price for a HALF-ASS game.
I bet you were one of the guys complaining about having to wait for the
game. That's what happens when you are pressured to release a game
before it is ready. You get a half finished game.
Worked fine for me straight out of the box, and the program has not
crashed once for me, unlike some other more realistic games.
HELLO!! What the hell were you expecting. The smell of *** or
something?? Its a game. You can't expect everyone to write a game as
complex and painful to play without a full steering wheel set as some
other racing sims, you'd sell about 1000 copies.
Well maybe the Real sim fanatics should go and spend 4 years writing
their own racing sim so I can complain about how long its taken to
produce and how poor the graphics and performance are and how much it
costs and how unrealistic it is!!!!
Have a good holiday Geoff. Some of us out here appreciate your years of
work and the ***you have had to put up with.
i see, here we have a real racer, a sportsman. what a load of decency !
its amazing how creative and eloquent he is, i even had to search the
dictionary for an adequate term.
i finally found a newsgroup about gp2 and the first thing i see is ***
like this post. i cant help reposting, because i appreciate the work of
geoff crammond very mucho. i have a lot of fun with gp2, as i had a lot
of fun with world circuit and stuntcar racer and here is big david gary
posting bullshit like this. i dont believe it. this is definitively not
my day.
wow, what a jerk.
addie
> I'm more amazed everyday as to why GP2 sucks like it does, I just [bla bla]
> bowel movements with his paint pigments!! Why would you?!! You ***ing
> IDIOT!! - DG
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>I'm more amazed everyday as to why GP2 sucks like it does, I just >learned from a valuable resource that Geoff Crammond's so-called design >team didnt even create a modem link for GP2, instead his LAZY-ASS just >added an old link from a previous game!!! To BAD we couldnt pay HALF >price for a HALF-ASS game. Geoff, I hope you had fun with our money on >vacation you incompetent ***!!!!! I hope the nocdrom zip stops your >Money flow!!!Why in the hell would you create such a great feeling and >graphical sim only too SCAR it by not finishing the DAMN THING?!!! >Why would you take such shortcuts!!! Michealangelo never mixed his >bowel movements with his paint pigments!! Why would you?!! You ***ing >IDIOT!! - DGI'll second that motion, Scott.
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BruceK
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