GP2 Framerate

Will adding more RAM improve the framerate. My computer is a P166 16Megs, I don't know about my video card, but it came on my computer and I don't think it's very good (It's a Packard Bell). Also will adding RAM to the video card help. Rigth now I get 18fps with most of the detail off.

Hi ! From what I've been reading on this newsgroup, I highly doubt that you'll notice an improvement by adding more RAM. I think that 8 MB should suffice, with 16 MB (your configuration) you should not notice any disk access (if you don't have enaugh RAM, GP2 uses a file on your HD to store data on-the-fly, so you'll probably notice a little slowdown in the game but I'm not 100% sure here). I've 16MB of RAM and I never notice any slowdown. Which I think isn't that bad but please keep in mind that the video-card plays a key role in the simulation. My brother acquired a P166 just to play this beat but after some testings, I've noticed that his PC runs GP2 like a P100 with a slow card. I've got a P150 overclocked to P166 (GP2 is the only piece of sw which runs a 166 - others crash - 19 fps in SVGA with Sky-Track off & mirror datils near to minimum) and it completely screams when compared to it. I replaced his video card with mine (Trio 64+) but unsuccesfully. I tried some other tests (3dbench included) and I've noticed that the raw processing power (CPU power) is pretty similar to the one noticed on my PC but when it has to face other processing areas (video card, HD) it's terrifically slow !! I've yet to discover why: he asked a techie to inspect the machine but he didn't find anything out of order. It's PC is simply much slower than mine. Best, Roberto -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Strhold Sistemi EDP Reggio Emilia ITALY --------------------------------------------------------------------- Acca', nisciuno e' fess ! (TOM - the red cat, Silvester's friend) ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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> I have experienced similar problems with the frame rate. I'd imagine the > cure is more video RAM but could someone help me with his one? I'd hate > to blow $70 on Vid RAM or $200 on a vid board and only rise up two or > three frames. > Thanks. Go Team Ferrari and Hey Dave Cullins! > Jason

I would imagine a faster processor would have a big effect also.I would like to know if someone out that has a P5166-200 and can if they can run GP2 with all graphics on in SVGA with a great frame rate. Thanks.

I have experienced similar problems with the frame rate. I'd imagine the cure is more video RAM but could someone help me with his one? I'd hate to blow $70 on Vid RAM or $200 on a vid board and only rise up two or three frames. Thanks. Go Team Ferrari and Hey Dave Cullins! Jason

More video RAM should do nothing to increase your frame rate. All it will do is allow you to use more colors in Windows. The only real option, besides a faster processor, is a better video card. Tony

I have a P5 200MHz, 512kb PB cache, 24Mb EDO RAM, with a Tseng ET4000/W32p Video Card (okay, so it's a naff video card, but it's the only one I've got!), and these are the results I get- SVGA Object Detail = ALL Textures = All except sky (obviously) Mirrors = All except hills, bank, smoke, and trackside objects Mirror Textures = As forward view Framerate Estimate = 21.3fps Framerate Set = 15.0fps Occupancy = 111% at Start of San Marino, dropping to a low of 48% GP2 log:on = CPU-389 and VIDEO-372 I have recently upgraded from a P5 133MHz, and although things have improved, they did not improve as much as I hoped. I had been hoping that I would be able to get all details and a framerate of about 20fps without occupancy reaching triple figures, but no. Nevertheless, I've got all the important details, and 15fps is enough to make it seem smooth. I keep the set framerate low to keep occupancy down. Now, would a better video card help me? /----\ /---\ /---\ |\ /| | oo | | | | | \/ | Thomas Hughes - Engineer \ -- / | | | | | 'If you can't beat them, give up' \ / | \---/ | |

Last week I got rid of my Cirrus Logic 5430 PCI with 1 meg and bought a Diamond Stealth 64 with 2 meg DRAM, my frame rate went from 16fps to 19.6fps. With all textures on execpt sky and only track and smoke shown in mirrors, and full detail. This is on a pentium 150 with 16meg RAM Dave Smith

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> >I have experienced similar problems with the frame rate. I'd imagine the > >cure is more video RAM but could someone help me with his one? I'd hate > >to blow $70 on Vid RAM or $200 on a vid board and only rise up two or > >three frames. > More video RAM should do nothing to increase your frame rate. All it > will do is allow you to use more colors in Windows. > The only real option, besides a faster processor, is a better video > card. > Tony

My 2 cents based on my experience : from p120 to p166 about 35 % increase. Then changing from my Diamond Stealth64 Video 3200 to a Hercules Dynamite 128 about 10 % increase, hardly noticeable. By the way, that Diamond ( 2mb pci) is for sale. Paid 399.00 $ canadian dollars for it in May of this year ( about 280.00 $ US ).

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>> I have experienced similar problems with the frame rate. I'd imagine the >> cure is more video RAM but could someone help me with his one? I'd hate >> to blow $70 on Vid RAM or $200 on a vid board and only rise up two or >> three frames. >> Thanks. Go Team Ferrari and Hey Dave Cullins! >> Jason > I would imagine a faster processor would have a big effect also.I would >like to know if someone out that has a P5166-200 and can if they can run >GP2 with all graphics on in SVGA with a great frame rate. Thanks.

I've got a P166 but have an old Tseng Labs W32p video card (for the moment). It's too slow if the clouds and all rear view mirror detail is on. I have clouds and mirror detail off and everything else on. It moves along real nicely like this. Monaco does get slow though and I need to do an alt-d once to turn detail down. Tony

I am new to this newsgroup, and was wondering if all the reference to frame rates etc are in SVGA mode? Regards Steve -- ___ _______ ___ ___ / _ \_______/_ __(_)___ / _ )/ _ )___ http://www.arcticbb.demon.co.uk / _ / __/ __// / / / __/ / _ / _ (_-< Arctic Bulletin Board - 24Hours /_//_/_/ \__//_/ /_/\__/ /____/____/___/ +44 181-903-1309/8 FidoNet#2:254/86

wow, When i went from a p100 to a ppro 200 i kept my mach64 2meg card. Oddly enough, the video benchmark in gp2 gp2 log:on, went from 148 to 134. cpu went from 175 to 379. after fastvid and univbe 5.3 (i tested just about every possible configuration for dos) she scored 74.5 on svgabnch.exe. I still turn off some mirror textures and usually go with about object detail level one, the trees suck anyway. everything else on. i get 100% occ when about 3 cars are on the track at 19.5 fps. I cant wait to try a game like this thats 3d ready, my new orchid rules! Jeff