Speed at Talladega

Hey fellow racing fans. I have a problem on the Talledega track in Nascar 1. I seem to slow down way too much in turn 4. I use to be able to go throught that corner and not fall below 190 but now I am going down to as much as 182mph or so. I am also finding it hard to get back up to top speed on the front straight-away. On the back straight-way however I am able to hit top speed of as much as 215mph once. I like this part but I just can't seem to keep the speed in the corners. I think it's the gear ratio. Could I be right? Any suggestions on what to do. Thanks a lot.... ****************************************************************************** Some men see things that are and ask why .... I try to see things that aren't and ask, why not? T. Kennedy http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jlindsay ******************************************************************************

Not to seem argumentative, but 215 on the back stretch!!! The best I have ever done is 204, and that was in the draft. Is your restrictor plate on? What version do you have? Surely not 1.21.

Sounds like you got a severe North wind blowing at the Dega! **************************************************************************** ** **************************************************************************** **

Sounds like you have a pretty stiff North wind blowing!

Check the wind setting. It sounds like you've added a bit of wind and are benefitting from it on one side and being hurt by it on the other. It happens on Hawaii all the time. Good luck. - Hurry up and wait. -

I am telling you I hit 215 once. Since then I have been able to do 210 on a continuous basis. I have version 1.00. I was not able to do it on version 1.21 at all so I reinstalled 1.00. Any suggestions anyone on howto keep my speed up in the corners. ****************************************************************************** Some men see things that are and ask why .... I try to see things that aren't and ask, why not? T. Kennedy http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jlindsay ******************************************************************************

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> Hey fellow racing fans. I have a problem on the Talledega track in Nascar > 1. I seem to slow down way too much in turn 4. I use to be able to go > throught that corner and not fall below 190 but now I am going down to as > much as 182mph or so. I am also finding it hard to get back up to top speed > on the front straight-away. On the back straight-way however I am able to > hit top speed of as much as 215mph once. I like this part but I just > can't seem to keep the speed in the corners. I think it's the gear ratio. > Could I be right? Any suggestions on what to do. > Thanks a lot.... > ****************************************************************************** > Some men see things that are and ask why .... I try to see things that > aren't and ask, why not? > T. Kennedy > http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jlindsay > ******************************************************************************

215!!!!!!!!!!????????? How are you guys so good at Tallageda!? I've gone faster on Michigan! -- B.J. Vosti #1 John Andretti Fan

That happened to me on Hawaii yesterday. The top speed on the backstretch was about 206, but you'd drop to 183 or so MPH through turn 4. At first I thought it was the way Multi.exe was programmed to slow down two-by-two cars going through the tri-oval, but I was wrong. - Jeff Copperthite

I find it hard to believe that anyone can top 215 at Michigan. It was the wind that caused that 215 on the back stretch but I still slow down considerably in the corners esp. turn 4. Anything else you can think of guys? Thanks a lot for the first suggestion. I think that I set it so that I could go fast on the back stretch but I completely forget about it. Later. ****************************************************************************** Some men see things that are and ask why .... I try to see things that aren't and ask, why not? T. Kennedy http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jlindsay ******************************************************************************

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> >> Hey fellow racing fans. I have a problem on the Talledega track in Nascar > >> 1. I seem to slow down way too much in turn 4. I use to be able to go > >> throught that corner and not fall below 190 but now I am going down to as > >> much as 182mph or so. I am also finding it hard to get back up to top speed > >> on the front straight-away. On the back straight-way however I am able to > >> hit top speed of as much as 215mph once. I like this part but I just > >> can't seem to keep the speed in the corners. I think it's the gear ratio. > >> Could I be right? Any suggestions on what to do. > >> Thanks a lot.... > >> ****************************************************************************** > >> Some men see things that are and ask why .... I try to see things that > >> aren't and ask, why not? > >> T. Kennedy > >> http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jlindsay > >> ****************************************************************************** > >215!!!!!!!!!!????????? How are you guys so good at Tallageda!? I've > >gone faster on Michigan! > >-- > >B.J. Vosti > >#1 John Andretti Fan > You've topped 215 at Michigan? I find THAT hard to believe... > ------------------ > Kyle Langston > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.traction.git.net/nrcentral/ - NASCAR Racing Central > -------------------------------------------------------------------

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>> Hey fellow racing fans. I have a problem on the Talledega track in Nascar >> 1. I seem to slow down way too much in turn 4. I use to be able to go >> throught that corner and not fall below 190 but now I am going down to as >> much as 182mph or so. I am also finding it hard to get back up to top speed >> on the front straight-away. On the back straight-way however I am able to >> hit top speed of as much as 215mph once. I like this part but I just >> can't seem to keep the speed in the corners. I think it's the gear ratio. >> Could I be right? Any suggestions on what to do. >> Thanks a lot.... >> ****************************************************************************** >> Some men see things that are and ask why .... I try to see things that >> aren't and ask, why not? >> T. Kennedy >> http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jlindsay >> ****************************************************************************** >215!!!!!!!!!!????????? How are you guys so good at Tallageda!? I've >gone faster on Michigan! >-- >B.J. Vosti >#1 John Andretti Fan

You've topped 215 at Michigan? I find THAT hard to believe... ------------------ Kyle Langston ------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.traction.git.net/nrcentral/ - NASCAR Racing Central -------------------------------------------------------------------

Actually, I think he meant that he was able to obtain a higher speed at Michigan than he could at Talladega, and that he was shocked that anyone could have made a run of 215 at Talladega, which is much faster than he could muster. Or at least I hope that is what he meant!!! Robert

: > >215!!!!!!!!!!????????? How are you guys so good at Tallageda!? I've : > >gone faster on Michigan! : > >-- : > : > You've topped 215 at Michigan? I find THAT hard to believe... : > : > ------------------ : > Kyle Langston : : Actually, I think he meant that he was able to obtain a higher speed at : Michigan than he could at Talladega, and that he was shocked that anyone : could have made a run of 215 at Talladega, which is much faster than he : could muster. Or at least I hope that is what he meant!!! : : Robert I've run 219.xxx at Talladega with a 226 back stretch speed (228 in the draft). Of course, that's with the restrictor plate taken off. ;-) Regards, -Dirt-

Then it doesn't count, does it? Kinda like saying I beat Duke3d while in God mode. What is your fastest speed while *NOT* cheating?

Not to be picky here, but it's only cheating when you are trying to compare your speeds to others who have left the plate on. As long as you bump up the RELS line in the taladega.txt file, you can still have close racing with the AI cars. -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

> That happened to me on Hawaii yesterday. The top speed on the backstretch > was about 206, but you'd drop to 183 or so MPH through turn 4. At first I > thought it was the way Multi.exe was programmed to slow down two-by-two > cars going through the tri-oval, but I was wrong. Use F4 to check the Hawaii settings before joining a race. Sometimes the person nominating the race gets pretty creative.:> -- Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA

: > I've run 219.xxx at Talladega with a 226 back stretch speed (228 in the : draft). : > Of course, that's with the restrictor plate taken off. ;-) : > : > Regards, : > : > -Dirt- : : Then it doesn't count, does it? Kinda like saying I beat Duke3d while in : God mode. : What is your fastest speed while *NOT* cheating? Oh, good sir, you wound me! Cheating? Me?? I merely take full advantage of what the game is capable of. Tell me that creative interpretation of the rules isn't an integral part of the real NASCAR series. :-) Seriously, though, somewhere around 193-194 alone and 195 in the draft. Regards, -Dirt-

> That happened to me on Hawaii yesterday. The top speed on the backstretch > was about 206, but you'd drop to 183 or so MPH through turn 4. At first I > thought it was the way Multi.exe was programmed to slow down two-by-two > cars going through the tri-oval, but I was wrong. One time I hit 230 mph on the backstretch at Talladega on Hawaii... it was set to random weather, and there was a 60 MPH wind! Made for a huge pileup in turn 3 as all the cars blew into the wall...and going into the turn at 230 didn't help. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/5177

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> : > I've run 219.xxx at Talladega with a 226 back stretch speed (228 in the > : draft). > : > Of course, that's with the restrictor plate taken off. ;-) > : > > : > Regards, > : > > : > -Dirt- > : > : Then it doesn't count, does it? Kinda like saying I beat Duke3d while in > : God mode. > : What is your fastest speed while *NOT* cheating? > Oh, good sir, you wound me! Cheating? Me?? I merely take full advantage > of what the game is capable of. Tell me that creative interpretation of > the rules isn't an integral part of the real NASCAR series. :-) > Seriously, though, somewhere around 193-194 alone and 195 in the draft. > Regards, > -Dirt-

With the restrictor plate removed and playing over Kali..does this give incompatiable tracks? Thanks!

Ok, that figures. Didn't think you were doing it with 1.21 . Anyway, What I do is watch where the AI cars are running, and try to drop just a little lower. So far, I can beat them at 105%, but it takes me a few laps ( like 20 or so!! ) To catch them from pos: 39. Makes it more fun that way.

Well, to keep kicking the proverbial dead horse, my top speed at Talladega is 205, that is while drafting. Can usually hit 201 solo at the end of the straightaway. Version 1.21, plate on.

That's exactly what I said. Taking off the plate is not in itself cheating, as long as you enable the AI cars to keep up and give close racing. It's not the same as god mode. You are just speeding up all of the cars, hence you get no advantage. If you keep the AI's running 195's while your lapping them running 215's then we have a problem. Only when these speeds are used as a basis of comparison (without mention to the conditions under which they were obtained) to other human drivers is it wrong. -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

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> > >215!!!!!!!!!!????????? How are you guys so good at Tallageda!? I've > > >gone faster on Michigan! > > >-- > > You've topped 215 at Michigan? I find THAT hard to believe... > > ------------------ > > Kyle Langston > Actually, I think he meant that he was able to obtain a higher speed at > Michigan than he could at Talladega, and that he was shocked that anyone > could have made a run of 215 at Talladega, which is much faster than he > could muster. Or at least I hope that is what he meant!!! > Robert

Try IndyCar II with Talladega, and you will make a run at >250 mph in the long straight.. Jim --

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> > Just to clear something up my fastst lap at Talledega was 199.xxx. When I > > mentioned 215 I was talking about top speed at any on epoint in the race. > Well, to keep kicking the proverbial dead horse, my top speed at Talladega > is 205, that is while drafting. Can usually hit 201 solo at the end of the > straightaway. Version 1.21, plate on.

What temperature? -- Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA VBTrace 96 is a runtime Procedure Trace, XRef, Debug, Profiler and much more. Shareware $49. http://www.apexsc.com/vb/ftp/coop/cstuart

I ran a 199.980 in the draft on Hawaii. Didn't even know it either until the race was over and I wiped the sweat from my palms if you know what I mean..... :) J.Walsh (sirglock on Hawaii)

The only way to run fast at Talladega is with the temp at 120...until I changed to that temp I could only run 193-194s. Now with the change I have run in a draft 199s a few time but still havent been able to break into the 200 lap times. I can usually qualify about 197.000 with the gift setup found on Aol at Simulation racing. NRE69 Good luck racing!!!

My take was he interpreted that everyone was saying they were good at Talladega in part because they could hit 215 down the backstretch. So he was questioning how good they were because he could go faster than that at Michigan. Right? ------------------ Kyle Langston ------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.traction.git.net/nrcentral/ - NASCAR Racing Central -------------------------------------------------------------------

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>>Well, that is about my speed when using the MULTI.EXE version. Though I >>have put it a lap in excess of 197 while in the draft. With the regular >>1.21 version, my best lap speed for Talladega is a 198.xxx. Again, this >>was accomplished in a race, not while qualifiying, and I was running REAL >>low on fuel when it happened. >>Robert > I ran a 199.980 in the draft on Hawaii. Didn't even know it either >until the race was over and I wiped the sweat from my palms if you >know what I mean..... :) > J.Walsh (sirglock on Hawaii)

I turned a lap at 198.8 leading with no draft. I suspect that with a draft I could turn 200 easy. Switch the spdway line in the text file from 0 to 1 and you can turn laps at 215 to 220. Changing this line removes the restrictor plate. Weekend Racer. Gotta Lovitt work hard and spend your money racing. Go 24

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>>> >215!!!!!!!!!!????????? How are you guys so good at Tallageda!? I've >>> >gone faster on Michigan! >>> >-- >>> You've topped 215 at Michigan? I find THAT hard to believe... >>> ------------------ >>> Kyle Langston >>Actually, I think he meant that he was able to obtain a higher speed at >>Michigan than he could at Talladega, and that he was shocked that anyone >>could have made a run of 215 at Talladega, which is much faster than he >>could muster. Or at least I hope that is what he meant!!! >>Robert >My take was he interpreted that everyone was saying they were good at >Talladega in part because they could hit 215 down the backstretch. So >he was questioning how good they were because he could go faster than >that at Michigan. >Right? > ------------------ >Kyle Langston > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >http://www.traction.git.net/nrcentral/ - NASCAR Racing Central > -------------------------------------------------------------------

Nobody does 215 on the back stretch with the restrictor plate. 205 tops. Weekend Racer. Gotta Lovitt work hard and spend your money racing. Go 24

Version 1.21...... On Hawaii, in the lead....I have turned 198.8 several times, and this does not thrill me. On Hawaii, in a good draft, and what I mean by good is that the driver(s) in front and behind, stay in line lap after lap, I have run well over 200 MANY times. This thrills me.

> I turned a lap at 198.8 leading with no draft. I suspect that with a > draft I could turn 200 easy. Switch the spdway line in the text file > from 0 to 1 and you can turn laps at 215 to 220. Changing this line > removes the restrictor plate. The above was in MULTI.EXE? Pretty good. No thanks on the restrictor. Been there, done that. Stick with what they give me. Leave the text and sector editors to those who feel they need them. Robert

Well, roll your window down.

The restrictor plate was ON in my case, and if any text files had been altered, the Hawaii system wouldn't let me on. Actually, I thought everybody had gone that fast....... Eric

I've ran 200+ with a 2 car draft a dega before. laneman ann myself once and a few other drivers as well. Higgy

> Only when these speeds are used as a basis of comparison (without mention > to the conditions under which they were obtained) to other human drivers is > it wrong. > -- > Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences > Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/ I agree! Do some laps at 85 degrees with zero wind and then let me know if you get above 197 by yourself. If you do then you have one of the fastest cars in the world. Send me your setup too if you can get above 197. Curtis Matz cmatz on Hawaii