All,
Man Nascar is getting ***ing! :) I finally beat my old record.
I went from 39th at Charlette to 1st place in 13 laps with AI set
to 100%. How does this compare to anyone else? Just trying to
get a feel of where others are at...
--
Lannie Schafroth
PS OK, maybe I'm bragging too....:)
writes:
Dunno about C***te, but try 'Dega at 113% *with* restrictor v1.21.
writes:
Go ahead and brag...that *is* some good racin...just tried it myself a
few times...no go...yet <g>. cheers...duncan.
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>writes: >>All, >>Man Nascar is getting ***ing! :) I finally beat my old record. >>I went from 39th at Charlette to 1st place in 13 laps with AI set >>to 100%. How does this compare to anyone else? Just trying to >>get a feel of where others are at... >>-- >>Lannie Schafroth >>PS OK, maybe I'm bragging too....:) >Dunno about C***te, but try 'Dega at 113% *with* restrictor v1.21.writes:
Schafroth)
Sure do, pal...everyday. Just experimenting w/Dega to see how far I
can push the AI, and what changes when moving up the difficulty scale.
Okay?
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>>writes: >>>All, >>>Man Nascar is getting ***ing! :) I finally beat my old record. >>>I went from 39th at Charlette to 1st place in 13 laps with AI set >>>to 100%. How does this compare to anyone else? Just trying to >>>get a feel of where others are at... >>>-- >>>Lannie Schafroth >>>PS OK, maybe I'm bragging too....:) >>Dunno about C***te, but try 'Dega at 113% *with* restrictor v1.21. >Do you race anywhere besides "Dega" ???I don't mean to come off elitist or anything, but I remember when I used
to use what you are talking about as a benchmark of my skill and it
doesn't compare to the level of skill you'll find online. If you really
want to see what you're worth, you need to come on Hawaii and find out.
AI will teach you how to conduct yourself in traffic, but they are way
too polite. You push them, they'll give. Try that online?...well, took
me about 20 laps to pass a guy monday (Yes Bill...You!) We spent a
great many of those 20 laps door to door, neither willing to give up the
nut! The AI just don't dig that hard! (g)
I oughta release that replay on home video! (g)
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>> Man Nascar is getting ***ing! :) I finally beat my old record. >> I went from 39th at Charlette to 1st place in 13 laps with AI set >> to 100%. How does this compare to anyone else? Just trying to >> get a feel of where others are at... >I don't mean to come off elitist or anything, but I remember when I used >to use what you are talking about as a benchmark of my skill and it >doesn't compare to the level of skill you'll find online. If you really >want to see what you're worth, you need to come on Hawaii and find out. >AI will teach you how to conduct yourself in traffic, but they are way >too polite. You push them, they'll give. Try that online?...well, took >me about 20 laps to pass a guy monday (Yes Bill...You!) We spent a >great many of those 20 laps door to door, neither willing to give up the >nut! The AI just don't dig that hard! (g) >I oughta release that replay on home video! (g)>>> Man Nascar is getting ***ing! :) I finally beat my old record.
>>> I went from 39th at Charlette to 1st place in 13 laps with AI set
>>> to 100%. How does this compare to anyone else? Just trying to
>>> get a feel of where others are at...
>>I don't mean to come off elitist or anything, but I remember when I used
>>to use what you are talking about as a benchmark of my skill and it
>>doesn't compare to the level of skill you'll find online. If you really
>>want to see what you're worth, you need to come on Hawaii and find out.
>>AI will teach you how to conduct yourself in traffic, but they are way
>>too polite. You push them, they'll give. Try that online?...well, took
>>me about 20 laps to pass a guy monday (Yes Bill...You!) We spent a
>>great many of those 20 laps door to door, neither willing to give up the
>>nut! The AI just don't dig that hard! (g)
>>I oughta release that replay on home video! (g)
>I agree with you. There's a simple little trick to beating the AI - just
>brake late going into the corner. They will usually politely move over,
>leaving you the inside line. You do have to be careful, because if you
>brake too hard, they will come back down on you. You can actually beat the
>AI even when the leaders are set to run faster laps than you, if you can
>catch them in lap traffic. As Mark said, it's nothing like racing against
>the real thing.
>Dave (davids) Sparks
>Late Night League
>http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html
Dave...while I have not raced Hawaii...($$)...I have no doubt that
racing against a full human field is superior to racing against AI.
That said...I must comment on the fact that at higher difficulty
levels, the AI is *certainly* no pushover. One would expect that as
you step up the ladder in difficulty, you would just see incremental
AI speed increases. This has not been my experience. Fire up say
Darlington somewhere between 105-110% and I think you'll be surprised.
Nobody is being 'polite' there. While I'm awaiting NRL as much as
everyone else...N1 continues to amaze me with overall AI programming.
cheers...duncan.
Even though the AI will run faster they remain fairly unaggressive and very
much predictable. They may appear less polite because it is harder to shove
your nose down low and beat them into the corner. Sure, there are times when
the AI just shuts me out, but you can spot those situations and a lap or so
later that same car will move over.
Terry
I don't know that racing a full field of human opponents is superior, but
it sure does present a much different problem, mainly surviving the
inevitable wrecks. <g>
On those occasions when I do race AI, I typically race at 105-110%. I
haven't seen any change in the behavior other than they run faster through
the turns. In fact, just the other night, I was racing AI cars set for 106%
at Martinsville as practice for an upcoming Late Night league race. I
lapped the entire field half way through a 40% race after starting mid-pack
by using the technique I described, i.e. catching the cars in slower
traffic and braking late for the turns.
And by no means, did I intend that as a slight of your ability. Just
finishing a 30% or longer race against the AI, given their proclivity for
severely boneheaded moves, is a sign of a skilled, patient driver. It's
just that they are utterly predictable 99% of the time. Human opponents are
utterly unpredictable 99% of the time. <g>
Dave (davids) Sparks
Late Night League
http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html
says...
ICR2) my car becomes almost uncontrolable. The steering wheel seems only
loosely conected to the car. Uncommanded changes in steering routinely
occur and because of this the short tracks are almost imposible to run.
Is this normal?
Tom King
Yes, I would love to try it. I've never dialed into Hawaii.
I don't intend on doing it until it becomes a local call or have
different call sights! :) If I call in now, my bill would be
horrible... :)
--
Lannie Schafroth
>>Do you race anywhere besides "Dega" ???
>Sure do, pal...everyday. Just experimenting w/Dega to see how far I
>can push the AI, and what changes when moving up the difficulty scale.
>Okay?
How are you at N.Wilkesboro? Seems the best I can do is a high 112.
Yet they really qualify around 118 or 119 I think. have you gotten
anything up there? (In other words, do I just suck here or is the
track messed up somehow in reference to the real life thing)???
Also, I notice we can run 133s and such at Bristol (un-realistic)...
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