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3D video cards???

3 posts by 3 people · 15 Sep 1996 - 15 Sep 1996

Jim Flowe 15 Sep 1996#337202
Im in the market for a 3D video card (I currently have a Diamond Stealth Video Vram w/2meg vram) and was wondering if I could get some input on which would be the best for games like F1GP2, Mechwarrior, Flight sims etc., best features (ie. output to TV, type of ram) and cost differences. If anyone can recommend one, I would appreciate it dearly. Messages can be posted here or email me directly. Thank you Jim
Eric Busch 15 Sep 1996#337203
I've posted numerous articles on the 3D card subject here lately. A 3D card will do absolutely nothing for present DOS games, as they are unable to utilize any of the cards acceleration features. As far as suggestions go, stay away from the ATI 3D Rage card as it is due to be replaced by the RageII chip. Avoid any of the Virge cards, as their hardware acceleration turns out to be slower than software (what good is a pretty game if the framerate sucks). While you're at it pass up the Matrox Mystique as it lacks filtering (take a look at http://www.rendition.com/techdef2.html to see what a difference it makes). Same goes for the upcoming PowerVR cards, although filtering is being added in a later version. So then, what's left? Right now the Rendition cards look hard to beat. With an estimated street price below $200 (read $199) and 4megs of EDO RAM, they are a very cost effective 3D solution. Sierra is planing a board of its own, so expect ports of ICR2 and Nascar2 for the Rendition. From what I've heard of eyewitness accounts, Quake is running beautifully on the Creative Labs board at 16-bit color with absolutely no texture pixelation. They will be VESA 2.0 compliant (no more Display Doctor for the HiRES modes in Quake) and are said to be quite fast in DOS SVGA. The early winner on pure speed looks to be cards based on the 3Dfx Voodoo graphics chip. These cards are 3D only, and are used in conjunction with a 2D card. These 4meg boards will sell for just under $300. Direct3D benchmarks based on the Tunnel Test show its performance to be much faster than the other cards, although I have yet to see a comparison to the Rendition cards. The only thing keeping this card from being the one to get is the price. Some companies feel that it's market share will be too small compared to the Rendition card, and thus are not making ports for it. Quoting John Carmack of iD: "3dfx is the best card out there for Quake and will provide the most significant improvement. Unfortunately it costs $300 for a card that is used in addition to your current 2D card. This may cause the marketshare for the card to be small and Quake may not have a port of it for that reason." With that said, why take my word for it. Goto http://www.dimension3d.com/ and look at all of the press releases and features for all the cards. You also might want to drop in on the comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video newsgroup as well. These 3D cards have been the topic of much discussion lately. There is also an older article that does a good job describing many of these cards available here: http://www.chipanalyst.com/report/report10_3/100304.html BTW, I plan on getting both a Rendition card as well as a Voodoo card (Orchid's looks to be faster than Diamond's). That way I get a good 2D card, great software ports for both cards, and very fast Direct3D performance. What can I say, I've got money to burn. -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/
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