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THESE SPOILERS,THAT YOU CALL THEM,ARE CALLED ROOF FLAPS,,,YES THESE ROOF FLAPS DO HELP THE CAR FROM GETTING LIFT, BUT YOUR WRONG ABOUT NOT SEEING THE WINSTON CUP CARS TUMBLE,,,,, JUST ASK RICKY CRAVEN AT TALADEGA OR KEN SHRADER OR BILL ELIOUT.....*** I CAN GO ON AND ON GET YOUR FACKS SRAIGHT BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING IN A NEWS GROUP.................STEVE T.

While he's getting his "FACKS STRAIGHT", why don't you learn how to spell without your CAPS LOCK ON

says... Just what are you trying to say? Talladega? Schrader? Elliot? facts? straight? Before whoever you are posting this to should get their facts straight...you should get your spelling right. -- http://www.netins.net/showcase/mpete Nascar..Weather..OnNetCameras..Oddities..and more.. Stop on by, what can it hurt?

>>TALADEGA OR KEN SHRADER OR BILL ELIOUT.....*** I CAN GO ON AND ON GET >>YOUR FACKS SRAIGHT BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING IN A NEWS >>GROUP.................STEVE T. >While he's getting his "FACKS STRAIGHT", why don't you learn how to >spell without your CAPS LOCK ON An occasional period to end each sentence would be nice as well. :) ------------------ Kyle Langston ------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.traction.git.net/nrcentral/ -------------------------------------------------------------------

Perhaps you were not watching this past spring.

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>> says... >> > THESE SPOILERS,THAT YOU CALL THEM,ARE CALLED ROOF FLAPS,,,YES >> > THESE ROOF FLAPS DO HELP THE CAR FROM GETTING LIFT, BUT YOUR WRONG >> ABOUT >> > NOT SEEING THE WINSTON CUP CARS TUMBLE,,,,, JUST ASK RICKY CRAVEN AT >> > TALADEGA OR KEN SHRADER OR BILL ELIOUT.....*** I CAN GO ON AND ON GET >> > YOUR FACKS SRAIGHT BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING IN A NEWS >> > GROUP.................STEVE T. >I never have seen Bill Elliot flip at Talladega, hmmm.. must've missed >something.. BTW, nice spelling.. > /|\ David Otterness > / |#\ Lake County, IL, USA > / |##\ > / |###\ IndyCar-#2 > / |####\ NASCAR-#2,whoever beats #3 > ----------- > \####| / E-mail me at: > \##| / > \#| / Or find me on UnderNet IRC, > \|/ Handle: Roid

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> says... > > THESE SPOILERS,THAT YOU CALL THEM,ARE CALLED ROOF FLAPS,,,YES > > THESE ROOF FLAPS DO HELP THE CAR FROM GETTING LIFT, BUT YOUR WRONG > ABOUT > > NOT SEEING THE WINSTON CUP CARS TUMBLE,,,,, JUST ASK RICKY CRAVEN AT > > TALADEGA OR KEN SHRADER OR BILL ELIOUT.....*** I CAN GO ON AND ON GET > > YOUR FACKS SRAIGHT BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING IN A NEWS > > GROUP.................STEVE T.

I never have seen Bill Elliot flip at Talladega, hmmm.. must've missed something.. BTW, nice spelling.. /|\ David Otterness / |#\ Lake County, IL, USA / |##\ / |###\ IndyCar-#2 / |####\ NASCAR-#2,whoever beats #3 ----------- \####| / E-mail me at: \##| / \#| / Or find me on UnderNet IRC, \|/ Handle: Roid

>>>TALADEGA OR KEN SHRADER OR BILL ELIOUT.....*** I CAN GO ON AND ON GET >>>YOUR FACKS SRAIGHT BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING IN A NEWS >>>GROUP.................STEVE T. >>While he's getting his "FACKS STRAIGHT", why don't you learn how to >>spell without your CAPS LOCK ON >An occasional period to end each sentence would be nice as well. :) And btw. Who the heck is Bill Eliout????? Steve, please don't go on and on, at least not until you read that article on newsgroup ettiquete by emily postnews <G> We have quite enough 3 and a half year olds around here already, well.....used to anyway <hint-hint> *********************************************** ** Keep the shiny side up & the hammer down ** *** Ron "Cougar" Riekens II *** **** Owner - Driver **** **** Medallion Motorsports/*** Photography **** *** NASS ARCA Series #96 Pontiac *** ***********************************************

Well, wasn't really a flip, more of a pierouette. Landed on wheels in grass, busted hip or something like that? Same day as Craven doing the raven thingie. Member? -- Greg Hicks ___ --------------UUU---UUU-------------------- Check out my website at http://www.koan.com/~ghicks

Your intelligence and knowledge of the English language is showing. Why don't you grow up? Evidently you are new to NASCAR why do you think they came up with the roof flaps in the first place? I would bet that you don't even know who the other drivers refer to as Bumper.

>Your intelligence and knowledge of the English language is showing. Why >don't you grow up? Evidently you are new to NASCAR why do you think they >came up with the roof flaps in the first place? I would bet that you don't >even know who the other drivers refer to as Bumper. Only one of two, 'Swervin' Irvan or Dale 'Hole in my Quarterpanel' Earnhardt - Fresh mt heav d -

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> > says... > > > THESE SPOILERS,THAT YOU CALL THEM,ARE CALLED ROOF FLAPS,,,YES > > > THESE ROOF FLAPS DO HELP THE CAR FROM GETTING LIFT, BUT YOUR WRONG > > ABOUT > > > NOT SEEING THE WINSTON CUP CARS TUMBLE,,,,, JUST ASK RICKY CRAVEN AT > > > TALADEGA OR KEN SHRADER OR BILL ELIOUT.....*** I CAN GO ON AND ON GET > > > YOUR FACKS SRAIGHT BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING IN A NEWS > > > GROUP.................STEVE T. > I never have seen Bill Elliot flip at Talladega, hmmm.. must've missed > something.. BTW, nice spelling.. > /|\ David Otterness > / |#\ Lake County, IL, USA > / |##\ > / |###\ IndyCar-#2 > / |####\ NASCAR-#2,whoever beats #3 > ----------- > \####| / E-mail me at: > \##| / > \#| / Or find me on UnderNet IRC, > \|/ Handle: Roid

since your on his spelling its Bill Elliott with 2 t's.. and cars still do flip..

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> > > says... > > > > THESE SPOILERS,THAT YOU CALL THEM,ARE CALLED ROOF FLAPS,,,YES > > > > THESE ROOF FLAPS DO HELP THE CAR FROM GETTING LIFT, BUT YOUR WRONG > > > ABOUT > > > > NOT SEEING THE WINSTON CUP CARS TUMBLE,,,,, JUST ASK RICKY CRAVEN AT > > > > TALADEGA OR KEN SHRADER OR BILL ELIOUT.....*** I CAN GO ON AND ON GET > > > > YOUR FACKS SRAIGHT BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING IN A NEWS > > > > GROUP.................STEVE T. > > I never have seen Bill Elliot flip at Talladega, hmmm.. must've missed > > something.. BTW, nice spelling.. > since your on his spelling its Bill Elliott with 2 t's.. and cars still > do flip..

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> If you think that stock cars no longer flip....you might want to ask > Dale Earnhardt about his recent experience at Talledega...You > obviously are quite ignorant when it comes to Nascar racing :). I think the issue is not whether or not Winston Cup cars flip, but rather do we want Papyrus' development teams putting so much effort into the quality of the crashes as opposed to the quality of the racing. I for one prefer Neato racing to Neato crashes hands down. Just as Winston Cup is not a sport about crashing, neither is NCR a simulator about crashing. You want to do that, there's always NFS. -- ===================================================================== C H A R L O T T E M O T O R S P E E D W A Y ------------------------------------------------------------------- // // Mark (Difficult at Darlington) McCuen // Caribou/IverSport #35 Hooters Monte Carlo ___/#D\__/ - __ Papyrus Closed Beta Team (8/95) [_()_35_()] _ --- ID: markmc // HCS/ProHCS // http://www.katt.com/mm/mmcars.html -----------------------------------------------------------------

From what I saw, he didn't really flip, as in end over end. He did get over on his side and slide down the track, where people commenced to crashing into him. It didn't matter if he, or Rickey Craven in the spring, had the flaps or not. When you are getting knocked around like that the flaps will do very little, if anything, for you. The flaps are mainly meant to deploy when the car spins on the track, disturbing the air flow and keeping the rear end from lifting, right? Or maybe not. Sure looked that way last spring when #3 got spun out on the last lap. BTW: Blame any spelling errors on MS Spellchecker!!! :-)

said with a lack of reguard to reality... Both accidents had one thing in common: they both had other cars for use as ramps. That's why roof flaps couldn't do a thing for them. The flaps are designed to work in a flat spin (the most common type) and are easily useless when pitch comes into play (a 3D spin/tumble). Mike -- ___^___ Speed Bump Motorsports... The name says it all. NRL95 #110 Hershey's Kisses Chevrolet Monte Carlo PRO95 #53 Hershey's Kisses Penske PC23/Ilmor D SIMCAR96 #45 Hershey's Kisses Pontiac Grand Prix PRO96 #2 Hershey's Kisses Reynard/Ford/Firestone - Pucker Factor Motorsports IVGA #2027 (membership, not the car!)

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>> If you think that stock cars no longer flip....you might want to ask >> Dale Earnhardt about his recent experience at Talledega...You >> obviously are quite ignorant when it comes to Nascar racing :). >I think the issue is not whether or not Winston Cup cars flip, but >rather do we want Papyrus' development teams putting so much effort into >the quality of the crashes as opposed to the quality of the racing. I >for one prefer Neato racing to Neato crashes hands down. Just as >Winston Cup is not a sport about crashing, neither is NCR a simulator >about crashing. You want to do that, there's always NFS. >-- >===================================================================== > C H A R L O T T E M O T O R S P E E D W A Y >------------------------------------------------------------------- > // > // Mark (Difficult at Darlington) McCuen > // Caribou/IverSport #35 Hooters Monte Carlo > ___/#D\__/ - __ Papyrus Closed Beta Team (8/95) >[_()_35_()] _ --- ID: markmc > // HCS/ProHCS > // http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/lig/m/v/mvwooten/system.txt >-----------------------------------------------------------------

I Disagree.....If cars Flip in the REAL Nascar, you would think that they should flip in the Simulator, which, btw is the most incredible simulator around, but still....flipping is still a reality. And I understand the programming involved in doing such, but it sure would make more realistic, don't you think? Dan Callaghan