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Adam or Charlie @ Papyrus

7 posts by 4 people · 11 Sep 1996 - 12 Sep 1996

Matt Mye 11 Sep 1996#336721
Adam or Charlie, It's getting fairly close to the release of NR2, and I wanted to start pricing some 3D-video cards. Can you drop us a bit of info as to which chip set to look for, which to avoid, preferred card (maybe the one used by your testers), or cards to avoid? After seeing the screenshots having the 3D effects, I gotta have it <g>. Also, are you having to contribute royalties to Converse for using the Chuck Taylor's in the uniform shop? ;) Thanks for any info. Waiting patiently (what other choice do we have?), Matt Myers _______________________________________________________________ "Expressing individualism is just plain wrong!" - Crow T. Robot
David Spark 11 Sep 1996#336722
Quoted text (19 lines)>Adam or Charlie, >It's getting fairly close to the release of NR2, and I wanted to start >pricing some 3D-video cards. Can you drop us a bit of info as to >which chip set to look for, which to avoid, preferred card (maybe the >one used by your testers), or cards to avoid? After seeing the >screenshots having the 3D effects, I gotta have it <g>. >Also, are you having to contribute royalties to Converse for using the >Chuck Taylor's in the uniform shop? ;) >Thanks for any info. >Waiting patiently (what other choice do we have?), >Matt Myers >_______________________________________________________________ >"Expressing individualism is just plain wrong!" - Crow T. Robot
Sierra Online just announced that they will be selling a Rendition-based 3D accelerator. I'd say it's a pretty good bet that this will be the first board that Papyrus supports. In fact, I'd wager they bundle the Rendition version of ICR2 with the board. Dave (davids) Sparks Late Night League http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html
Eric Busch 11 Sep 1996#336723
It looks as if an accelerated copy of IndycarII will be shipping with several boards. Quoting from Bootnet's News page (http://www.bootnet.com/news.html) "Last week, we reported that Intergraph was close to signing a deal with id Softwares John Carmack for the exclusive rights to the accelerated full-version of Quake. The deal, which was largely based on Carmacks desire to own a few of Intergraphs workstations, was signed this week. Intergraph will distribute the accelerated version of Quake, along with an accelerated version of Indy Car II, in October with its Reactor 3D card ($199)." About Sierra's new card, Bootnet has this to say, "In a move that calls the viability of Microsoft's Direct3D API into question, Sierra On-Line will offer a 3D graphics accelerator card based on Rendition's Vrit chip for the holiday season. Although this move clearly puts Sierra into direct competition with major peripheral manufacturers such as Diamond Multimedia, Orchid Technology, and Creative Labs, Sierra claims it has no intention of becoming a hardware company. "We're not trying to get into the hardware business," says Sierra product manager Scott Fasser, " we're trying to establish a standard." Fasser went on to criticize Direct3D, saying, "there is no comparison between games written to Direct3D and games tuned to a specific chip, such as the Vrit." Based on the prototype Vrit-based cards that have come through the bootLab, it looks like the only difference between any manufacturer's card will be the software bundled with it. Sierra's card, tentatively named Screamin' 3D, will be bundled with Sierra's Indy Car II, Silent Thunder II, and possibly one or more additional games to be announced later. The card will feature 4MB of EDO DRAM and is expected to carry a street price of $199. The Screamin' 3D is being built for Sierra by the Japanese manufacturer Canopus and should be available in early November. " -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/
Neil Yeatma 11 Sep 1996#336724
> It looks as if an accelerated copy of IndycarII will be shipping with > several boards. DOES ANYBODY KNOW: Are all Rendition boards created equal? Is one faster or more fully featured than another? Are they still fast Windows/GUI cards? Are these questions covered on a web site somewhere? Neil -- Meek and obedient you follow the leader down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.. Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA
David Spark 12 Sep 1996#336840
Quoted text (21 lines)>> It looks as if an accelerated copy of IndycarII will be shipping with >> several boards. >DOES ANYBODY KNOW: >Are all Rendition boards created equal? >Is one faster or more fully featured than another? >Are they still fast Windows/GUI cards? >Are these questions covered on a web site somewhere? >Neil >-- >Meek and obedient you follow the leader >down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.. > Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA
I think Eric's post suggested that they are equal. I doubt this is a situation where OEM's will be customizing BIOS and drivers, so other than the amount and speed of video memory, I can't imagine finding much different. Rendition's website is http://www.rendition.com Dave (davids) Sparks Late Night League http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html
Eric Busch 12 Sep 1996#336841
I'm not sure about the Rendition boards, but 3Dfx looks to be in charge of the drivers for all of the boards based on its Voodoo graphics chip. They will be making the drivers for both the Orchid and Diamond cards. Marc Warden of Orchid hinted that there was a difference between the boards, but of course it would be in his best interest to say that. With the same drivers and chip (although I'm sure the other components will differ slightly) the cards should be fairly equal. Of course one board manufacturer could wind up using much higher quality components and thus be faster. Keep in mind this is all just speculation, and we really will just have to wait and see them in action. -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/
Eric Busch 12 Sep 1996#336842
From early reports, the 3DBlaster PCI (the Creative Labs Rendition board) appears to be a very fast Windows and DOS 2D board. As a bonus, it is VESA 2.0 compliant, so no more SciTech Display Doctor to get the hi-res modes in Quake. It looks as though the main difference between the board will be the bundled software. Your best source of info on this subject is the comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video newsgroup. There has been tons of discussion about the upcoming 3D cards. A rep from Orchid has done a great job answering questions about his companies upcoming 3Dfx Voodoo Graphics based Righteous3D. For general info all the different boards and chips out there, take a look at Dimension3D. Its URL is (suprisingly enough): http://www.dimension3d.com/ -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

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