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PROCESSOR UPGRADE - ANY SUGGESTION?

5 posts by 4 people · 09 Sep 1996 - 12 Sep 1996

I want to upgrade my P75 but I would't buy an Intel processor. What is the best processor as speed as a P150/166 if possible? Marco
iksteh 12 Sep 1996#336886
Why not Intel? For 3d games, the Intel has an advantage over the Cyrix and AMD chips since it has faster floating point. If not Intel, then Cyrix is supposedly substantial quicker per mHz than Intel. Cyrix Speed Intel equiv 100mHz Pentium 120 120mHz Pentium 150 133mHz Pentium 166 but this does NOT stand up for CAD or 3-D rendering! (gp2) If you do go Intel (recommended!) then the most cost effective at the moment is 120 or 133, because although 150 and 166 are faster processors, they multiply the bus clock by a fraction and thus get higher overheads. Games that use alot of graphics need a high bus speed as well as a high CPU speed. P60,66,90,120 and 133 all multiply bus speeds by whole numbers. Other CPUs are faster, and some motherboards may support higher bus speeds, but I haven't seen em yet. Don't flame me if I'm wrong - my customers won't listen to me :-) The P75 was actually slower in processing by 1% under the P66 since it used the slowest bus speed of all the Pentiums. Don't rule out Intel because the 75 was a dog. I'd recommend getting a new motherboard as well, the new INTEL chipsets FX and HX give another 10% for a given CPU.
iksteh 12 Sep 1996#336887
Yeah, I know I'm following up my own post, but I have to make a correction - oops...:-) This is a more accurate list of Intel based speed increases Got this info from Aust PC World from a benchmark average. CPU BUS Multiple %overP60 p166 66 2.5 59% p150 60 2.5 56% p133 66 2.0 48% p120 60 2.0 41% p100 66 1.5 unsure :-( p90 60 1.5 21% p75 50 1.5 12% p66 66 1.0 14% (yes - faster than 75) It's not a question of speed, faster CPUs do offer better perf., but if money is an issue as well, the $ increase in getting a top of the line CPU with a minor speed increase is hard to validate. I should qualify this hardware garbage with a mention that fast RAM contributes mightily to frame rates. I got rid of 16mb of standard and got the same amount of EDO, and ICRII, Nascar and gp2 all improved slightly. Didn't help my lap times tho'.
Rob Jame 12 Sep 1996#336888
Quoted text (11 lines)> > I want to upgrade my P75 but I would't buy an Intel processor. > > What is the best processor as speed as a P150/166 if possible? > Why not Intel? For 3d games, the Intel has an advantage over the > Cyrix and AMD chips since it has faster floating point. > If not Intel, then Cyrix is supposedly substantial quicker per mHz > than Intel. > Cyrix Speed Intel equiv > 100mHz Pentium 120 > 120mHz Pentium 150 > 133mHz Pentium 166 > but this does NOT stand up for CAD or 3-D rendering! (gp2)
AFAIK, GP2 doesn't use the FPU heavily. Quake was written to run on Pentiums (which do floating point quicker than fixed point!) but GP2 was written to run on 486's upwards so still uses fixed-point maths. If your'e not worried about Quake then it may be worth going for a Cyrix 166+ or wait a short while and get a Cyrix 200+. They should both be a lot cheaper than Intel equivalent. Anyone feel free to inform me otherwise! Rob.
Doug Gre 12 Sep 1996#336889
On 12 Sep 1996 09:33:46 GMT, "Jason Harrison"
Quoted text (11 lines)>> I want to upgrade my P75 but I would't buy an Intel processor. >> What is the best processor as speed as a P150/166 if possible? >Why not Intel? For 3d games, the Intel has an advantage over the >Cyrix and AMD chips since it has faster floating point. >If not Intel, then Cyrix is supposedly substantial quicker per mHz >than Intel. >Cyrix Speed Intel equiv >100mHz Pentium 120 >120mHz Pentium 150 >133mHz Pentium 166 >but this does NOT stand up for CAD or 3-D rendering! (gp2)
Jet, Gp2 does not use fp calculations, nor does Nascar, Indycar2, or the proposed Nascar2. Quake at the moment is the only major game using fp to do 3d rendering. The Cyrix is the way to go if these current games are your passion. On the comparison between the 166+ Cyrix and Intel , the Cyrix is on average about 20% faster, and the Cyrix 200+ is about 40 % faster than the intel product. (*disclaimer) : On floating point calculations you are right, the cyrix is very far behind the Intel. The Cyrix is usually priced 40 to 50% less, they dont advertise as much ;-) I tottally agree here with you, and if you get a board that can handle 200mhz then if the latest and greatest of the next generation games are fp intensive you can always pop in an Intel. Doug

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