ED or ADAM ---- NASCAR2 Question

Will you have an option to put on "scuffs" or "stickers" in NASCAR2? Maybe a future version? Also will you have an option for a passenger side windows? On superspeedways they use it for more aerodynamics and they leave it off on short tracks and road-courses for more drag. Anyway it was just a thought. ----------------------------------------------- ---- ---- ----- Mark Light ----- ------ ------ -------- -------- --------- --------- ----------------------------------------------- THE GM GOODWRENCH SERVICE CHEVROLET KICKS ASS!! GO DALE!!! __________ ________| |__________ / / / / /__________ _______/ |__________|

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>Will you have an option to put on "scuffs" or "stickers" in NASCAR2? Maybe a >future version? Also will you have an option for a passenger side windows? On >superspeedways they use it for more aerodynamics and they leave it off on >short tracks and road-courses for more drag. Anyway it was just a thought. >----------------------------------------------- >---- ---- >----- Mark Light ----- >------ ------ >-------- -------- >--------- --------- >----------------------------------------------- >THE GM GOODWRENCH SERVICE CHEVROLET KICKS ASS!! > GO DALE!!! > __________ > ________| |__________ > / / > / / > /__________ _______/ > |__________|

First off Dale sux. Now that we got that out of the way. Nascar requires the cars to have passenger side window dew to such high speeds at the superspeedways. The window helps keeps the cars from getting airborn in a spin. Now then about it being Nascar2, what diffrence would it make you can not see it unless you spin and then why would you want to see it.

Hi Tony, I don't want death or injury in NASCAR 2 but it really would be spectacular to see the roof of the car ahead as you enter the Taladega Tri-Oval at 190 mph. Cheers, Craig ****************************************************************************** Canberra, Australia IVL Toys-R-Us #43 Pontiac - Rick Higbee Motorsports http://www.ozemail.com.au/~hoppy1 ******************************************************************************

> First off Dale sux. Now that we got that out of the way. Nascar >requires the cars to have passenger side window dew to such high >speeds at the superspeedways. The window helps keeps the cars >from getting airborn in a spin. Now then about it being Nascar2, what >diffrence would it make you can not see it unless you spin and then >why would you want to see it. Then why is the passenger side window designed to pop out in a spin? If the air can go through the car then it will not go over it like an aircraft's wing - therefore less lift. Same reason they have the ridges above the windows and the roof flaps. Cheers, Craig ****************************************************************************** Canberra, Australia IVL Toys-R-Us #43 Pontiac - Rick Higbee Motorsports http://www.ozemail.com.au/~hoppy1 ******************************************************************************

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> >Will you have an option to put on "scuffs" or "stickers" in NASCAR2? Maybe a > >future version? Also will you have an option for a passenger side windows? On > >superspeedways they use it for more aerodynamics and they leave it off on > >short tracks and road-courses for more drag. Anyway it was just a thought. > >----------------------------------------------- > >---- ---- > >----- Mark Light ----- > >------ ------ > >-------- -------- > >--------- --------- > >----------------------------------------------- > >THE GM GOODWRENCH SERVICE CHEVROLET KICKS ASS!! > > GO DALE!!! > > __________ > > ________| |__________ > > / / > > / / > > /__________ _______/ > > |__________| > First off Dale sux. Now that we got that out of the way. Nascar > requires the cars to have passenger side window dew to such high > speeds at the superspeedways. The window helps keeps the cars > from getting airborn in a spin. Now then about it being Nascar2, what > diffrence would it make you can not see it unless you spin and then > why would you want to see it.

Actually, you'd just like to believe Dale sucks. -- B.J. "Macarena Hater" Vosti Dole/Kemp in '96!

>Will you have an option to put on "scuffs" or "stickers" in NASCAR2? Maybe a >future version? Also will you have an option for a passenger side windows? On >superspeedways they use it for more aerodynamics and they leave it off on >short tracks and road-courses for more drag. Anyway it was just a thought. The s***or stickers idea sounds pretty good. However, we've already been over the passenger side window bit. One more time--it's NOT and option!! The passenger side window is required by NASCAR at certain superspeedways to help keep the cars on the ground. They were first used in the 1987 Firecracker 400 at Daytona, along with a lower right side skirt, and a smaller carbuerator. All this occurred because of Bobby Allison's crash in the Winston 500 at Talladega earlier that year, when Allison's car cut a tire, got airborne, and crashed into the spectator fence. Several other rule changes followed, including the restrictor plate, roof rails, a left side skirt, and finally roof flaps. Also, the passenger side windows, originally, were only required at Daytona and Talladega. But, after Davey Allison's crash at Pocono in 1992, NASCAR mandated that the windows be used at Atlanta, Michigan, Pocono, C***te, and maybe Darlington (I didn't notice if they used them this weekend or not). They also require the windows at Indy. So, once again, the passenger side window is not, repeat, IS NOT an aerodynamic tuning device. It's a SAFETY DEVICE required by NASCAR. Pat ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pat Campbell The Chevy Monte Carlo 6,94,88,16,4,25 Lexington, AL NASCAR's Wide Load War Eagle!!! Home Page: http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pscampbe/pscindex.html NASCAR Stats: http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pscampbe/nascstat.html -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

>The s***or stickers idea sounds pretty good. >However, we've already been over the passenger side window bit. One more >time--it's NOT and option!! snip Besides, what good would it do to have one more thing to mess with in a sim that it has already been stated the cars in which will not flip over. Apparently Nascar wants to limit realism to the track only, and so won't allow Sierra/Papyrus to implement flips in the sim. Ron *********************************************** ** Keep the shiny side up & the hammer down ** *** Ron "Cougar" Riekens II *** **** Owner - Driver **** **** Medallion Motorsports/*** Photography **** *** NASS ARCA Series #96 Pontiac *** ***********************************************

shooting through ***space: What surprises me is that people are so upset that cars won't flip. Sheesh, talk about morbid. -- IWCCCARS Project Coordinator [link lost in import] Hawaii: IWCCCARS

You sir are totally out of your mind! How can you say such a thing? Don't you know anything about Nascar Racing? By the looks of that statement your either just looking to start a fight or you really don't know JACK about stock car racing! Ths only thing here that SUX is the first sentence of your reply! Sal V.

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>shooting through ***space: >>Besides, what good would it do to have one more thing to mess with in >>a sim that it has already been stated the cars in which will not flip >>over. Apparently Nascar wants to limit realism to the track only, and >>so won't allow Sierra/Papyrus to implement flips in the sim. >What surprises me is that people are so upset that cars won't flip. >Sheesh, talk about morbid. >--

Ah, but I'm not upset about no flips. It's that Nascar insists on denying the reality that the cars *do* flip. As far as being morbid. What's morbid about watching a simcar flip????? It's not like we are asking to see arms. heads, and *** fly out of the cars!! Anyone who would ask for that should be running the sim in a *** room. Ron R II *********************************************** ** Keep the shiny side up & the hammer down ** *** Ron "Cougar" Riekens II *** **** Owner - Driver **** **** Medallion Motorsports/*** Photography **** *** NASS ARCA Series #96 Pontiac *** ***********************************************

>Then why is the passenger side window designed to pop out in a spin? It's not, and it never has been. Sometimes in a spin, the window WILL pop out, but it's not designed to. It does, however, have a safety release on the inside in case the driver has to punch himself out of the car on the passenger side. I can't answer this question technically, at least not until I look at an article I've got from Stock Car Racing magazine. I'll just say that, after Bobby Allison's crash in May of '87, NASCAR did some extensive wind tunnel testing, and found that closing the side window decreased lift when the car was sideways. The rule has been in place ever since. The drivers don't especially like it, mainly because it just increases the heat inside the car. But I know for a fact it's not an aero tunning device, it's a requirement. Pat ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pat Campbell The Chevy Monte Carlo 6,94,88,16,4,25 Lexington, AL NASCAR's Wide Load War Eagle!!! Home Page: http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pscampbe/pscindex.html NASCAR Stats: http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pscampbe/nascstat.html -----------------------------------------------------------------------------